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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Online Flag Truro Cornwall 04 Dec 21 1.01pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Action taken beyond the 20 odd people, who may or may not have done anything, probably having to move and find new school for their kids?
It’ll be interesting to see, in due course, if similar stories emerge about the IPL; not in a whataboutery way but more to establish whether this is endemic in the game although, of course, county players spend much more time together which encourages cliques to develop.

You seem to be assuming they lost their jobs for no reason, or just because of Rafiq's claims. I trust that a proper investigation has taken place and, if not, they will refer their dismissals to an employment tribunal. It seems very heavy-handed to me, and quite possibly counter-productive, but I am looking in from the outside, like all of us here are.

 


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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Online Flag 04 Dec 21 1.09pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You seem to be assuming they lost their jobs for no reason, or just because of Rafiq's claims. I trust that a proper investigation has taken place and, if not, they will refer their dismissals to an employment tribunal. It seems very heavy-handed to me, and quite possibly counter-productive, but I am looking in from the outside, like all of us here are.

Of course we’re all looking in from the outside. Commenting on situations in which you’re directly involved is what Facebook is for.

 

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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag 04 Dec 21 4.18pm Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You seem to be assuming they lost their jobs for no reason, or just because of Rafiq's claims. I trust that a proper investigation has taken place and, if not, they will refer their dismissals to an employment tribunal. It seems very heavy-handed to me, and quite possibly counter-productive, but I am looking in from the outside, like all of us here are.

It's been bloody quick if it has been!
My guess is a blanket knee jerk reaction as always.
Do it wrong for years and then make another bad decision always hoping that two wrongs make a right!

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 04 Dec 21 5.16pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Does it?

I don't see how anyone, other than those taking the action, can know.

I would hope that investigations and interviews would take place to verify and understand.

What Rafiq has done is open a door and allowed those with closed eyes and ears to see and hear what is inside.

His own character, whatever it may be, is not a direct issue. Indeed, from all I heard, he hasn't attempted to portray himself as anything special and accepted he was part of the problem.

It's others who built him up, to prepare him for the inevitable knockdown so beloved of the tabloids.

Well if it is still be investigated why have they “left”? Not sure all media outlets were setting him up for inevitable knockdown, the usual culprits jumped on the race/ discrimination bandwagon, initially on his word

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 04 Dec 21 5.28pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

16 people have lost their jobs we don't know the details or even if the process was fair.

Rafiq has stirred up a hornet's nest and anyone who has been impacted by his allegations is entitled to question his credibility and motives.

People in glass houses etc.

 


One more point

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 04 Dec 21 6.20pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

16 people have lost their jobs we don't know the details or even if the process was fair.

Rafiq has stirred up a hornet's nest and anyone who has been impacted by his allegations is entitled to question his credibility and motives.

People in glass houses etc.

This

 

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View chris123's Profile chris123 Flag hove actually 05 Dec 21 10.07pm Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

This

Time to call in Sean Bean?

 

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View crystal-purley's Profile crystal-purley Flag Purley 06 Dec 21 7.57pm Send a Private Message to crystal-purley Add crystal-purley as a friend

no. he's still sorting out tthe tea party

 


Enjoying getting up later and not having someone who knows better than me (apart from the missus of course).

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 06 Dec 21 8.02pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by crystal-purley

no. he's still sorting out tthe tea party

You’re Sharp(e)

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 01 Apr 23 12.18pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Rafiq's allegations not investigated properly and Vaughan deservedly cleared. A case built entirely on Rafiq's word with no actual evidence at all - with everyone dying to believe him.
Loads of people have lost their jobs over nothing. Clearly bias proceedings - I don't at all blame the people who are paying it no heed and withdrawing from the process.

 


Red and Blue Army!

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View georgenorman's Profile georgenorman Flag 01 Apr 23 1.08pm Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Rafiq's allegations not investigated properly and Vaughan deservedly cleared. A case built entirely on Rafiq's word with no actual evidence at all - with everyone dying to believe him.
Loads of people have lost their jobs over nothing. Clearly bias proceedings - I don't at all blame the people who are paying it no heed and withdrawing from the process.

Agreed. Notice how they still use the weasel words "on balance of probabilities" - still trying to continue the smearing of his reputation.

 

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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 01 Apr 23 4.38pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

The English and Welsh Cricket Board, have ironically taken a Scottish Law term, "Not Proven", which is a weaselly way of getting themselves out of a fix. It doesn't clear Vaughan , in Scottish Law, but would better be termed 'innocent' as he should be under English/Welsh law.
Vaughan is 'innocent' and they didn't have the bollicks to say so.

 


"The facts have changed", Rishi Sunak

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