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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 23 Jan 22 9.39am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

So it isn't an ongoing investigation or an allegation.
Who'd have thought it eh?

Raab says they can’t investigate without her making a formal complaint

He really doesn’t understand employment law given what he just said.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 23 Jan 22 9.48am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Why not formally complain at the time? Possibly more to this but who knows these days

Edited by Spiderman (23 Jan 2022 8.53am)

I don't believe it.

A number of senior Tory figures are Asian and Rishy is favourite to lead the party.

Why on earth when sacking a junior minister would you say what is alleged in today's environment.

There is no need even if it was true, you wouldn't say it but would use the standard line when sacking any minister which presumably would be something like

"The PM thanks you for your service but has decided to shake things up blah blah..."

I would be amazed if this was true.

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 23 Jan 22 10.12am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

She explains that in the article. It would have been a huge fight to pick at the time and almost certainly career limiting. I suspect she is emboldened by Boris Johnson’s impending demise.

How gullible can a person be?

Do you genuinely just take everything on face value?

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 23 Jan 22 10.15am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

How gullible can a person be?

Do you genuinely just take everything on face value?

It's called the 'Rafiq effect'.

There's no known cure.

 


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 23 Jan 22 10.33am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

How gullible can a person be?

Do you genuinely just take everything on face value?

Kindly enlighten me oh wise one

Why has she done this? Truly I am unsure.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 23 Jan 22 10.51am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Kindly enlighten me oh wise one

Why has she done this? Truly I am unsure.

Because she isn't white and in the present climate non whites have the 'whip' hand. Pun not meant BTW

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 23 Jan 22 11.23am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Because she isn't white and in the present climate non whites have the 'whip' hand. Pun not meant BTW

And?

I shall ask again, why do this? What has she to gain? I really don't understand. Maybe her constituents will lap it up but I am sure the Party won't be happy with her. They are already making her out to be a liar, which she may or may not be.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 23 Jan 22 11.32am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

And?

I shall ask again, why do this? What has she to gain? I really don't understand. Maybe her constituents will lap it up but I am sure the Party won't be happy with her. They are already making her out to be a liar, which she may or may not be.

I've already mentioned the 'Rafiq effect'.

This use to be called the 'race card' and fear of 'racism' charges gains advantage via selection potential and if that eventually fails....as was probably the case here as she waited a year to see if she could 'get back in'....then it can be used as a reputation weapon to damage those she doesn't like.

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Jan 2022 11.34am)

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 23 Jan 22 11.33am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Kindly enlighten me oh wise one

Why has she done this? Truly I am unsure.

Are you having a laugh?

 

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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 23 Jan 22 11.38am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

It seems an almost unbelievable allegation. That a Senior Tory would make a comment , along the lines of "You're Muslim, you don't fit in here. goodbye"

So you would have to wonder at why the allegation is made,...through the media,.not through employment procedure.
Personally, I can't even begin to wonder why. It is just bizarre and potentially career harming to all those who might be named. (if it ever gets that far)

(And I read Stirling's explanation, and it seems the most plausible, but i am still unsure)

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (23 Jan 2022 11.41am)

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 23 Jan 22 12.34pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

And?

I shall ask again, why do this? What has she to gain? I really don't understand. Maybe her constituents will lap it up but I am sure the Party won't be happy with her. They are already making her out to be a liar, which she may or may not be.

Well it appears at the time boris met her and asked if she wished to make a formal complaint. I will leave it there.....

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 23 Jan 22 1.05pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

And?

I shall ask again, why do this? What has she to gain? I really don't understand. Maybe her constituents will lap it up but I am sure the Party won't be happy with her. They are already making her out to be a liar, which she may or may not be.

An obvious answer might be because she is embarrassed.

A senior minister might be sacked by the PM because they are seen as a threat in other words they are too good at their job and must go.

This lady was a junior minister and so far down the list that Boris delegated the sacking. Junior ministers aren't really a threat to the PM so when they are sacked it is for the usual reasons e.g. not up to the job.

Perhaps this lady is looking for excuses rather than admitting that.

Now all of the above is speculation but you asked for a reason, she wouldn't be the first or last person who when sacked tried to shift the blame elsewhere.

Edited by Badger11 (23 Jan 2022 1.06pm)

 


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