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View Grumbles's Profile Grumbles 18 Mar 22 10.47am Send a Private Message to Grumbles Add Grumbles as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Where they'll lose is I won't use P & O after this and I do get the odd ferry. I doubt I'm the only one.

I was going to book a ferry this weekend for a trip in May, now going by the tunnel.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 18 Mar 22 10.58am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Grumbles

I was going to book a ferry this weekend for a trip in May, now going by the tunnel.

I'll use Stena Line or Irish Ferries. I already won't use Ryanair. I've adopted a zero tolerance policy for companies that piss me off. I think it's the best consumers can do. My feeling is goodbye altogether P & O in the not too distant future.

 


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View kevlee's Profile kevlee Flag born Wandsworth emigrated to Lanc... 18 Mar 22 12.49pm Send a Private Message to kevlee Add kevlee as a friend

How they were sacked is out of order, but thats the free market and capitalism in full effect.
We do have weak employment rights in the UK, but thats because the electorate vote for them. Nothing will happen to P&O and whats 800 men out of work to the government?

 


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View nead1's Profile nead1 Flag 18 Mar 22 12.58pm Send a Private Message to nead1 Add nead1 as a friend

I wonder how this will end up if it goes to the courts - highly likely I would have thought. In such circumstances and given the numbers of employees involved, there is the requirement to consult for either 40/60 days on ways to mitigate the situation. It appears as if the owners have ignored this so they could have large number of unfair dismissal claims on their hands mixed in with discrimination claims.
If P&O also had a European Works Council in place - quite likely I would have thought given the numbers they employ and locations - they could also find themselves facing EU legislation if they simply ignored the EWC.
I suspect this is far from the end of the story and quite rightly so given the disgraceful way they went about it.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 18 Mar 22 1.11pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by nead1

I wonder how this will end up if it goes to the courts - highly likely I would have thought. In such circumstances and given the numbers of employees involved, there is the requirement to consult for either 40/60 days on ways to mitigate the situation. It appears as if the owners have ignored this so they could have large number of unfair dismissal claims on their hands mixed in with discrimination claims.
If P&O also had a European Works Council in place - quite likely I would have thought given the numbers they employ and locations - they could also find themselves facing EU legislation if they simply ignored the EWC.
I suspect this is far from the end of the story and quite rightly so given the disgraceful way they went about it.

Yup I would be surprise if this was legal, as you say you have to go through a consultation process with the unions and workers, unless this has happened and the media has not reported it.

 


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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 18 Mar 22 1.12pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

The tories wouldn't help a blind man crossing the road, let alone 800 of our mistreated workers.

At least they were spared execution.

What damage to the brand it must be considerable, hopefully we do care enough.

I'd love to see them all sinking slowly preferably with their owners onboard.

Although we could nationalise them with zero compensation, I don't see why not actually, we could also say there was an email with Putin that shows they are linked and take them as an economic sanction.


 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 18 Mar 22 1.14pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

I'll use Stena Line or Irish Ferries. I already won't use Ryanair. I've adopted a zero tolerance policy for companies that piss me off. I think it's the best consumers can do. My feeling is goodbye altogether P & O in the not too distant future.

Agreed, unless there is no alternative and so far this has not been a problem. I see Michael O'Leary was defending jacking their prices up for people wanting to leave the Ukraine, shameless.

 


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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 18 Mar 22 1.20pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by YT

You're not sure and then you are sure, 5 words later.

You got the jist of it though didn't you, you melt.

 


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View JRW2's Profile JRW2 Flag Dulwich 18 Mar 22 2.19pm Send a Private Message to JRW2 Add JRW2 as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

More disgraceful behaviour by companies in the name of profit.

Profit - ah yes, that dirty word, that awful thing, the taxation on which pays for our public services.

 

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View Grumbles's Profile Grumbles 18 Mar 22 2.22pm Send a Private Message to Grumbles Add Grumbles as a friend

Originally posted by kevlee

How they were sacked is out of order, but thats the free market and capitalism in full effect.
We do have weak employment rights in the UK, but thats because the electorate vote for them. Nothing will happen to P&O and whats 800 men out of work to the government?

............and how many French staff have been sacked?

 

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View eagleman13's Profile eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 18 Mar 22 2.30pm Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Originally posted by Grumbles

............and how many French staff have been sacked?

Or Dutch

 


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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 18 Mar 22 2.47pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by JRW2

Profit - ah yes, that dirty word, that awful thing, the taxation on which pays for our public services.

I always expect that very little, if any, tax is paid. I suspect the 800 workers would contribute a decent amount in tax and in consumer spending, to the economy. Well, they would have, it'll now become the tax payers' burden to pay for them on the dole. Probably have to pay some kind of redundancy too.

 


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