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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 10 Apr 22 11.59am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by HeathMan

On an East Croydon Station platform last week I heard a staff member help a chap born in Canada, who had moved to New Zealand, helped to pronounce Tulse Hill. He was using tul se Hill.

reminds me of this Two Ronnies sketch.

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Tear down the statutes of the Two Ronnies, racist xenophobic fascists

 


If untruths and bllshit are allowed to flourish unchallenged the forum will be the worse for it.

Opinions are not facts just because you believe them

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 17 Apr 22 9.34am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Bent Council (Sorry Brent) to rename William Gladstone park after Diane Abbott.

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Gladstone was a giant of the Victorian era and has a worldwide reputation. He was a great social reformer unfortunately he was also pale and stale which is not good enough for the commissars of Bent Council.

The council asked school children to suggest an alternate name for the park and they came up with the policial giant Diane Abbott (I'm surprised they didn't suggest Spongebob Square Pants).

The council would have been better off explaining to the children who Gladstone was and why the park was deservedly named after him.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 17 Apr 22 9.57am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Apparently Brent council were heavily in debt in the ‘80s so Diane Abbott would be a perfect and eventually a statue to celebrate her achievements. That would look lovely.

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 17 Apr 22 10.56am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Bent Council (Sorry Brent) to rename William Gladstone park after Diane Abbott.

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Gladstone was a giant of the Victorian era and has a worldwide reputation. He was a great social reformer unfortunately he was also pale and stale which is not good enough for the commissars of Bent Council.

The council asked school children to suggest an alternate name for the park and they came up with the policial giant Diane Abbott (I'm surprised they didn't suggest Spongebob Square Pants).

The council would have been better off explaining to the children who Gladstone was and why the park was deservedly named after him.

One can see why satirical comedy is going out of fashion.

We are living it.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 17 Apr 22 11.39am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

If they want to make a statue for Diane Abbott all they have to do is make a cast round the Queen Victoria one in Brighton and then fill the empty cast with whatever eco waste and change the head.

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 17 Apr 22 11.52am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

The left hate the pale and the stale of the great and the good.

The problem the left have in rewriting history is they want to honour people of their own ilk e.g. non white or gay or trans, whatever etc.

The reality is very few of these people merit a mention beyond their demographic, Oscar Wilde global gay icon would be one of the exceptions.

Well if you look hard enough you are bound to find a member of the alphabet soup who lived in the UK but frankly it's not enough.

Mary Secole is one example a kind black lady who sold refreshments and alcohol to soldiers on the front line in the Crimea. To mention her in the same breath as Florence Nightingale a woman who founded modern nursing world wide is laughable.

However she even has a statue outside the St Thomas's which is massively linked to FN and not her. Now it is true that as a black woman she was denied opportunities that were afforded FN and the same could be said for many of the other obscure heroes of the left. However the point is that these people through no fault of their own did not leave a mark in history but just because they tick a certain box they are bigged up.

Replacing Gladstone with Diane Abbott is like comparing an elephant and an ant.

Edited by Badger11 (17 Apr 2022 11.54am)

 


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 17 Apr 22 12.23pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

The left hate the pale and the stale of the great and the good.

The problem the left have in rewriting history is they want to honour people of their own ilk e.g. non white or gay or trans, whatever etc.

The reality is very few of these people merit a mention beyond their demographic, Oscar Wilde global gay icon would be one of the exceptions.

Well if you look hard enough you are bound to find a member of the alphabet soup who lived in the UK but frankly it's not enough.

Mary Secole is one example a kind black lady who sold refreshments and alcohol to soldiers on the front line in the Crimea. To mention her in the same breath as Florence Nightingale a woman who founded modern nursing world wide is laughable.

However she even has a statue outside the St Thomas's which is massively linked to FN and not her. Now it is true that as a black woman she was denied opportunities that were afforded FN and the same could be said for many of the other obscure heroes of the left. However the point is that these people through no fault of their own did not leave a mark in history but just because they tick a certain box they are bigged up.

Replacing Gladstone with Diane Abbott is like comparing an elephant and an ant.

Edited by Badger11 (17 Apr 2022 11.54am)

That will be Mary Seacole then, the first nurse practitioner around whom there is much debate. A contemporary of Florence Nightingale.

Comparing Mary Seacole and Florence Nightingale’s achievements, it is fair to say that Florence Nightingale has left a more obvious impression and more concrete legacy on modern nursing. She introduced modern notions and standards of nursing; she reduced the death rate of wounded soldiers in the Crimean War and she founded a professional school of nursing. Florence Nightingale, however, came from a well off background with many influential friends, which made it easier for her to make things happen. Her friend’s husband, Sidney Herbert was Minister of War at the time.

 

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Originally posted by Mapletree

That will be Mary Seacole then, the first nurse practitioner around whom there is much debate. A contemporary of Florence Nightingale.

Comparing Mary Seacole and Florence Nightingale’s achievements, it is fair to say that Florence Nightingale has left a more obvious impression and more concrete legacy on modern nursing. She introduced modern notions and standards of nursing; she reduced the death rate of wounded soldiers in the Crimean War and she founded a professional school of nursing. Florence Nightingale, however, came from a well off background with many influential friends, which made it easier for her to make things happen. Her friend’s husband, Sidney Herbert was Minister of War at the time.

You kind of repeated all his main points back to him.

 


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Originally posted by Mapletree

That will be Mary Seacole then, the first nurse practitioner around whom there is much debate. A contemporary of Florence Nightingale.

Comparing Mary Seacole and Florence Nightingale’s achievements, it is fair to say that Florence Nightingale has left a more obvious impression and more concrete legacy on modern nursing. She introduced modern notions and standards of nursing; she reduced the death rate of wounded soldiers in the Crimean War and she founded a professional school of nursing. Florence Nightingale, however, came from a well off background with many influential friends, which made it easier for her to make things happen. Her friend’s husband, Sidney Herbert was Minister of War at the time.

Agreed. That is the unfortunate point many people poor or non white or gay etc. did not have the same opportunities however just because a person did not get the same breaks it doesn't mean they are worthy of immortalising. Lots of people did have access to power, wealth and opportunity and did nothing of note so you can only speculate as to what someone might have done.

 


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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 17 Apr 22 3.17pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Bent Council (Sorry Brent) to rename William Gladstone park after Diane Abbott.

[Link]

Gladstone was a giant of the Victorian era and has a worldwide reputation. He was a great social reformer unfortunately he was also pale and stale which is not good enough for the commissars of Bent Council.

The council asked school children to suggest an alternate name for the park and they came up with the policial giant Diane Abbott (I'm surprised they didn't suggest Spongebob Square Pants).

The council would have been better off explaining to the children who Gladstone was and why the park was deservedly named after him.

Wouldn’t they be better off naming it after a Romanian?

Ceausecu perhaps?

 


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Originally posted by Badger11

Bent Council (Sorry Brent) to rename William Gladstone park after Diane Abbott.

[Link]

Gladstone was a giant of the Victorian era and has a worldwide reputation. He was a great social reformer unfortunately he was also pale and stale which is not good enough for the commissars of Bent Council.

The council asked school children to suggest an alternate name for the park and they came up with the policial giant Diane Abbott (I'm surprised they didn't suggest Spongebob Square Pants).

The council would have been better off explaining to the children who Gladstone was and why the park was deservedly named after him.

Are Gladstone bags made in Bangladeshi child sweatshops? Oh, sorry they're producing the branded sportswear these enlightened kiddies like to wear.

 

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