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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 05 Jun 22 8.52pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Is AWB sighing, dying to get back to us?

If not why bother.

'Let's call the whole thing off'.

 

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View Ginger Pubic Wig's Profile Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 05 Jun 22 9.05pm Send a Private Message to Ginger Pubic Wig Add Ginger Pubic Wig as a friend

Tbh, in the way Vieira wants to play, the end-of-season Clyne probably suits us better than AWB would. It's more a question of whether we can get a full season of Clyne in that form (you have to assume not). But maybe it gives us time to look longer at Ferguson or to buy potential.

 


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View kennybrowns leftfoot's Profile kennybrowns leftfoot Flag Reigate 06 Jun 22 4.35am Send a Private Message to kennybrowns leftfoot Add kennybrowns leftfoot as a friend

Originally posted by PatrickA

The way we played under Roy suited him.
It was uncomplicated and AWB did an excellent job and was rarely beaten one on one.
Where he didnít have a direct opponent to mark though he always looked a little unsure positionally.
At Man Utd the requirement of the role was different but he played a lot under OGS and did reasonably well.
Itís only the recent manager who jettisoned him.
Iíd be happy for him to come back on loan, but itís not a priority position for me.

Right back not a priority position?? I'd have to disagree to be honest. I think we desperately need a right back for next season. Forget Ferguson that's not even an option for me. I actually thought Clyne finished the season strongly but still don't think he's the answer and Ward hasn't been good enough for a few seasons now. It's definitely a position we really need to be looking at in my opinion.

 


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View Mwncisee's Profile Mwncisee Flag Middlesbrough 06 Jun 22 7.12am Send a Private Message to Mwncisee Add Mwncisee as a friend

Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot

Right back not a priority position?? I'd have to disagree to be honest. I think we desperately need a right back for next season. Forget Ferguson that's not even an option for me. I actually thought Clyne finished the season strongly but still don't think he's the answer and Ward hasn't been good enough for a few seasons now. It's definitely a position we really need to be looking at in my opinion.

I agree with the above. I accept that central midfield is a priority for us this summer as CB was for us last summer but fear, that once again we will sacrifice getting a RB to get this summers priorities.

Unfortunately I think we are letting our hearts rule our heads when it comes to our pursuit of AWB. He had a good season with us but, as others have said, we were a different team then and needed different styles of play than we do now. AWB has declined over the last few years which would mean he is an expensive risky option that would not suit our style anymore. There are other cheaper options out there (Sambia). I'd like us to get one of those so we do fill a hole in the team/squad at low coast and release more funds for CM.

 

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View taylors lovechild's Profile taylors lovechild Flag 06 Jun 22 8.31am Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

Originally posted by Mwncisee

I agree with the above. I accept that central midfield is a priority for us this summer as CB was for us last summer but fear, that once again we will sacrifice getting a RB to get this summers priorities.

Unfortunately I think we are letting our hearts rule our heads when it comes to our pursuit of AWB. He had a good season with us but, as others have said, we were a different team then and needed different styles of play than we do now. AWB has declined over the last few years which would mean he is an expensive risky option that would not suit our style anymore. There are other cheaper options out there (Sambia). I'd like us to get one of those so we do fill a hole in the team/squad at low coast and release more funds for CM.

I would argue that it is just this season that AWB has been poor, but that also goes for pretty much the whole United team. He was one of their best players in his first season. I agree that there are probably cheaper options, but personally I think under Vieira's tutelage and with the support and stability of a family club we'd see the best of him again. If the rumours are true and he goes to Athletico then I imagine he'll thrive there too.

 

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View MrRobbo's Profile MrRobbo Flag Purley 06 Jun 22 9.20am Send a Private Message to MrRobbo Add MrRobbo as a friend

I just don't see this happening in a month of Sundays. You buy players from a big club only if you are a bigger club, or the player is on the way down.

Utd wont want to admit defeat and send him back to us, like they did with Zaha. If they offered him on loan I'm sure there would be a lot of prem interest.

He's young and the entire team underperformed, not just him. If they can get the team working together there is no reason he cant be an important part of it.

Like it or not, he's now a £50m player, I'd much rather us continue with our current recruitment strategy, and look at players on the up.

 

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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 06 Jun 22 11.05am Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

I think it's not a priority position in comparison to midfield in that we have Ward and Clyne who are experienced and capable performers for at least next season.
In midfield Gallagher has left, there is uncertainty about the futures of Luka and Kouyate and the ageing Mcarthur is increasingly injury prone.
I don't know what our budget is but feel we should address the midfield as first priority.
If that is addressed then I have no objection to us adding a right back as long as they are a noticeable upgrade to existing options.

Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot

Right back not a priority position?? I'd have to disagree to be honest. I think we desperately need a right back for next season. Forget Ferguson that's not even an option for me. I actually thought Clyne finished the season strongly but still don't think he's the answer and Ward hasn't been good enough for a few seasons now. It's definitely a position we really need to be looking at in my opinion.

 

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View Omph's Profile Omph Flag Liverpool 07 Jun 22 4.42pm Send a Private Message to Omph Add Omph as a friend

Originally posted by PatrickA

I think it's not a priority position in comparison to midfield in that we have Ward and Clyne who are experienced and capable performers for at least next season.
In midfield Gallagher has left, there is uncertainty about the futures of Luka and Kouyate and the ageing Mcarthur is increasingly injury prone.
I don't know what our budget is but feel we should address the midfield as first priority.
If that is addressed then I have no objection to us adding a right back as long as they are a noticeable upgrade to existing options.

Disagree.

Midfield is one priority but defence is just as pressing. We really got away with it last season with 6 first team defenders (or 7 if you include Kelly). That is minimal cover and Ward, Clyne and Tomkins are all in the red zone for staying fit for a complete season and Kouyate is very makeshift. Just one long term injury and we are close to being screwed.

The other point is greater depth at the back allows us vary formation and be more flexible in approach. This is partly a nod to PV's experiment with 3 at the back but also a recognition that 5 subs could be a game changer in how subs are used. Wide defenders are very often the key figures in a flexible formation as it really helps to have players who can slot it as a trad full back and also players who can fulfil the wing back role.

Do the new personnel need to be an upgrade? No. They need to be able to offer something different and/or allow flexibility in the squad. Even before the 5 subs rule PL football is increasingly a squad game and it will only become more so.

Two names I'd mention here are Ole Aina and Dujon Sterling. Both come with Chelsea stamp of approval and could/should be affordable. Neither may make an immediate impact on the first team but they offer variety and the possibility of improvement by growth under training in our system. Aina looks the more ready perhaps and I believe he could cover left and right.

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 07 Jun 22 5.50pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by MrRobbo

I just don't see this happening in a month of Sundays. You buy players from a big club only if you are a bigger club, or the player is on the way down.

Utd wont want to admit defeat and send him back to us, like they did with Zaha. If they offered him on loan I'm sure there would be a lot of prem interest.

He's young and the entire team underperformed, not just him. If they can get the team working together there is no reason he cant be an important part of it.

Like it or not, he's now a £50m player, I'd much rather us continue with our current recruitment strategy, and look at players on the up.

Marc Guehi would argue otherwise.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 07 Jun 22 6.10pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Marc Guehi would argue otherwise.

His two League Cup appearances don't really put him in the same bracket.

 

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View HeathMan's Profile HeathMan Flag Purley 07 Jun 22 11.05pm Send a Private Message to HeathMan Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add HeathMan as a friend

Have to hope that CPFC do not try to buy him on the first day of the window. Day before last of window is usually when there are bargains to be had, with selling clubs and players hoping to be sold more sensible.
If thinking of buying aims to have are:-
no risk of obstruction to academy members or Nathan Ferguson's prospects
no sell on clause
ask Daniel Levy to suggest price (he seems to have an instinct for (forcing) a bargain when buying.
buy with first half of season loan back (to cover fee?)- letting him prove himself damaging other teams prospects.
COYP

 

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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 08 Jun 22 8.33am Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

My view is that the Ward / Clyne combo can do a job for Palace for one more season if necessary.

However, if the right player, at the right price came along then I can see us signing that player.

But I don't think it's AWB. Unless Utd subsidise his wages, that would be an immediate stumbling block to a loan deal. And just assuming that they were willing to take a 50% hit on a permanent deal, I don't see Palace paying £20m+ for a right back.

 


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