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View Pete53's Profile Pete53 Flag Hassocks 06 Aug 22 10.16am Send a Private Message to Pete53 Add Pete53 as a friend

A promising little cameo from Ebiowei when he came on. He looked confident and willing to take players on, although I appreciate the challenge is doing that when you start a game and not when you come on for 10 minutes when a game is lost. But let's keep our finger crossed that he has what it takes, and I am happy he isn't going out on loan.

 

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View kennybrowns leftfoot's Profile kennybrowns leftfoot Flag Reigate 06 Aug 22 10.26am Send a Private Message to kennybrowns leftfoot Add kennybrowns leftfoot as a friend

Originally posted by Pete53

A promising little cameo from Ebiowei when he came on. He looked confident and willing to take players on, although I appreciate the challenge is doing that when you start a game and not when you come on for 10 minutes when a game is lost. But let's keep our finger crossed that he has what it takes, and I am happy he isn't going out on loan.

Agreed. He did more in his short time on the pitch than Ayew did... It shows how different us fans see things. I've read comments on here from people that thought Ayew played well... I saw nothing in Auew except a guy who constantly gave the ball away and made the wrong decisions when to release the ball.

 


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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Online Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 06 Aug 22 10.39am Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

The opening 20 minutes was very uncomfortable but we were hanging on in there. So to then concede from yet another set piece was hugely disappointing.

I thought we gave it a good go in the second half and we did create a gilt edged chance which Eze sadly didn't take.

Can't say i was surprised by either the performance or the result.

The question marks over certain positions remain.

Big positive for me was Andersen - he was outstanding last night.

 


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View Nubes's Profile Nubes Flag London 06 Aug 22 10.40am Send a Private Message to Nubes Add Nubes as a friend

Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot

Agreed. He did more in his short time on the pitch than Ayew did... It shows how different us fans see things. I've read comments on here from people that thought Ayew played well... I saw nothing in Auew except a guy who constantly gave the ball away and made the wrong decisions when to release the ball.

I agree. His strengths are his close control and winning fouls. Fouls are not too be given so readily this season so he will not be as affective and his close control isn’t coupled with him having pace so his impact will further b negated.

 

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View Den1923's Profile Den1923 Flag 06 Aug 22 10.43am Send a Private Message to Den1923 Add Den1923 as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

First game of the season, a long way to go. Arsenal had an excellent pre season with top players signed for big money. We had a disjointed pre season for various reasons. We did ok, after we settled into the game, no point digging out individual players, if luck was on our side, we could of got a draw, they weren't that much better than us.
I expect at least 2 new players by the end of the window, but top quality midfielders and strikers dont come cheap, so expect the loan or purchases to be based on potential.
I expect we will finish about 13-14th, there are a lot of clubs with far deeper pockets than us.

This is a very fair assessment of where we are, there were clear positives but the usual concerns remain, we are slow coming out from the back and fizzle out in the final third. The defence last night was weak down the right and we still make silly mistakes in defence that cost us goals. We definitely need three new additions before the transfer window closes (RB/Striker/Attacking midfielder). The good news is we can only get better as we had a very disjointed pre-season splitting the main squad in to two separate groups which meant that we did not have time to gel as a team in the way PV would have liked. The result last night was not unexpected given the improvements Arsenal have made to their squad and the money they have in doing so. We may have to get used to being around the bottom of the table for the next month or so due to the tough fixtures coming our way. Thereafter with the right additions we should settle around our usual position, hopefully just below mid table.

 

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View Mathers's Profile Mathers Flag 06 Aug 22 10.51am Send a Private Message to Mathers Add Mathers as a friend

Generally a good performance and should have taken a point if we finished one of the two big chances.

Biggest area of concern is midfield. Hopefully getting Benteke off the books gives us the money to buy/loan a high quality midfielder to complete the midfield trio with Eze & Doucoure. Schlupp is a decent bench option but isn’t good enough to start in most prem teams.

 

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View Booted Eagle's Profile Booted Eagle Flag Bristol 06 Aug 22 10.54am Send a Private Message to Booted Eagle Add Booted Eagle as a friend

Have to take your chances when you get them, particularly in a tight game like last night. Unfortunately Edouard and Eze both fluffed their lines. Whilst heading does not seem to be Edouard's strong point he looked ineffective for his time on the pitch. Was in/out last season through no fault of his own but hoping for more from him. Genuinely surprised that Mateta did not start. Eze might of been wiser to chip the keeper from his position. Let's hope we can improve in front of goal in future games. Expect with Tekkers long awaited departure we might be able to get somebody new in. Same set piece deficiencies in defense which was also frustrating to see. In conclusion not a disaster but hoping for better. COYP !!

Edited by Booted Eagle (06 Aug 2022 10.55am)

Edited by Booted Eagle (06 Aug 2022 10.59am)

 


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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 06 Aug 22 11.08am Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by Booted Eagle

Have to take your chances when you get them, particularly in a tight game like last night. Unfortunately Edouard and Eze both fluffed their lines. Whilst heading does not seem to be Edouard's strong point he looked ineffective for his time on the pitch. Was in/out last season through no fault of his own but hoping for more from him. Genuinely surprised that Mateta did not start. Eze might of been wiser to chip the keeper from his position. Let's hope we can improve in front of goal in future games. Expect with Tekkers long awaited departure we might be able to get somebody new in. Same set piece deficiencies in defense which was also frustrating to see. In conclusion not a disaster but hoping for better. COYP !!

Edited by Booted Eagle (06 Aug 2022 10.55am)

Edouard and Eze fluffed their chances? Eduoard was under a lot of pressure and their keeper made a good save, Eze should of scored, but the keeper again made a good save. Arsenal also had good chances and fluffed them, its all very fine margins.

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View Rainforest's Profile Rainforest Flag London England 06 Aug 22 11.10am Send a Private Message to Rainforest Add Rainforest as a friend

My concern is why PV persisted from playing from the back with all the sideways and back passes it just slowed our attack. Was it that when he had the ball Quaita don't like kicking it upfield or just PV's instructions get the back 4 to do it to the wingers ? There were hardly any ball through the centre to attack.

 

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View monkey's Profile monkey Flag Sittingbourne,Kent/Made in Bromley 06 Aug 22 11.19am Send a Private Message to monkey Add monkey as a friend

Originally posted by Rainforest

My concern is why PV persisted from playing from the back with all the sideways and back passes it just slowed our attack. Was it that when he had the ball Quaita don't like kicking it upfield or just PV's instructions get the back 4 to do it to the wingers ? There were hardly any ball through the centre to attack.

I think even Anderson gets fed up with it, although he’s comfortable on the ball, he does like to launch a ball forward from the back, when I say launch I mean it in a good way, because as we’ve seen he can ping some lovely balls forward

 

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View fish mitten's Profile fish mitten Flag Chelmsford 06 Aug 22 11.23am Send a Private Message to fish mitten Add fish mitten as a friend

Whilst I think we battled well and took the game to them in the second half, there were some worrying aspects.
Our defending of their first goal was shocking. Keep giving away soft goals like that and you’ll struggle especially when virtually every other team in the league has better options that Mateta and Edouard as forwards. Neither is likely to get 15 goals a season so we will be reliant upon goals from elsewhere.
I did think if we got back to 1-1 we could go on to win. But Arsenal sat off us and we couldn’t take advantage. We created very few chances and that’s also a concern.
Looking at our opening fixtures we are likely having to be sent playing catch up. 0 points from first 4 games is likely.
Think we should be too good to go down, but based on last night I think about 16th place is likely.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 06 Aug 22 11.26am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

so far nothing has changed from last year:

- Opposition get off to good start Palace slow out of the block and have to play catch up.

- Eventually Palace wake up and dominate most of the game but fail to score or score enough.

- Opposition get sucker goal .

Hopefully Pat can fix these problems and it is only one game. I don't buy into the jerk circle that Sky was doing over Arsenal they had a good 20 minutes but then it was all Palace until their second goal which had an element of luck.

Finally I am surprised the ref didn't swap shirts with one of the Arsenal players at the end, I mean he deserved it!

Edited by Badger11 (06 Aug 2022 11.29am)

 


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