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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 06 Aug 22 11.35am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Arsenal were sharp and prepared, us a disjointed confused close season.

Kouyate badly missed.


 

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View Nubes's Profile Nubes Flag London 06 Aug 22 12.08pm Send a Private Message to Nubes Add Nubes as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Arsenal were sharp and prepared, us a disjointed confused close season.

Kouyate badly missed.


I watch our training sessions on Palace TV consistently if not weekly when itís posted. I also watch other teams and their training and Arsenal I tend to watch and their drills and intensity from the goalkeepers to the 1on1s is far more intense, varied and skill based compared to ours.

Not surprised they were sharp and prepared alongside the All or Nothing doc out would add to the players being instructed to put on good performances as the squad and club are on show for all to see.

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 06 Aug 22 12.20pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Very disappointed yesterday.

Already posted something similar but for me we desperately need to improve midfield who seemed nonexistent and hard to grasp conceptually yesterday although Doucoure did look class albeit very much the Ďnew kidí. Ebiowei showed more promise in few minutes he was on than Ayew has in the same amount of years for me. Iíd start him ahead of Jordan. Didnít quite expect that but a real silver lining on the cloud if that continues.

As many have noted, we need a striker IMO, Edouard still looks overawed and a perfect example of the chasm between Scottish football and the PL for me. Mateta good but canít help but want for more.

On a side note, I am worried about Eze. As hilarious as certain individuals notions heíll challenge for a ballon díor in the next few years are, he looked very much, for me, the epitome of one of my biggest gripes with Ďfootball fansí (those who I usually actually associate with Arsenal) in that the game cannot be won with smoke and mirrors. It might look nice on social media but does not have much context or substance on its own. Iíve thought that with Eze for a while, great fun against Nowheresville FC in the cup but his lack of all round game is a concern. Looks positionally weak, doesnít put in necessary graft, doesnít quite fulfill the playmaker role for me, set pieces left a lot to be desired yesterday and have done too often and looked as though heíd of rather been anywhere else than where he was after receiving the ball 10 yards out from goal and only the keeper to beat.

All seems a bit hysterical at this moment in time must be said but it is frustrating when the first game comes round as though nobody at the club was expecting it. We were much better second half but there is still much thatís easy to critique. I expect things to improve however will be bitterly disappointed and concerned without any further incomings and feel as though we will need to step up a gear ASAP or real anxiety may start to creep in.

COYP

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 06 Aug 22 12.43pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

We need a striker and better players than Shlupp and Ayew.

Olise will make a big difference going forward, but we have to win the ball back better in midfield. Gallagher needs replacing for that.
Far too often, we allow too much space in front of the defence.
Better discipline for corners will also save us a load of goals.

Guehi had a poor game, Ayew is far too ponderous. Edouard struggles with the lack of time and space in the PL. He needs to be used differently.

The positives were that Decoure looks very decent and Andersen is Champions League level.

 

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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 06 Aug 22 12.45pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

Very disappointed yesterday.

Already posted something similar but for me we desperately need to improve midfield who seemed nonexistent and hard to grasp conceptually yesterday although Doucoure did look class albeit very much the Ďnew kidí. Ebiowei showed more promise in few minutes he was on than Ayew has in the same amount of years for me. Iíd start him ahead of Jordan. Didnít quite expect that but a real silver lining on the cloud if that continues.

As many have noted, we need a striker IMO, Edouard still looks overawed and a perfect example of the chasm between Scottish football and the PL for me. Mateta good but canít help but want for more.

On a side note, I am worried about Eze. As hilarious as certain individuals notions heíll challenge for a ballon díor in the next few years are, he looked very much, for me, the epitome of one of my biggest gripes with Ďfootball fansí (those who I usually actually associate with Arsenal) in that the game cannot be won with smoke and mirrors. It might look nice on social media but does not have much context or substance on its own. Iíve thought that with Eze for a while, great fun against Nowheresville FC in the cup but his lack of all round game is a concern. Looks positionally weak, doesnít put in necessary graft, doesnít quite fulfill the playmaker role for me, set pieces left a lot to be desired yesterday and have done too often and looked as though heíd of rather been anywhere else than where he was after receiving the ball 10 yards out from goal and only the keeper to beat.

All seems a bit hysterical at this moment in time must be said but it is frustrating when the first game comes round as though nobody at the club was expecting it. We were much better second half but there is still much thatís easy to critique. I expect things to improve however will be bitterly disappointed and concerned without any further incomings and feel as though we will need to step up a gear ASAP or real anxiety may start to creep in.

COYP

Your anxiety will be through the roof by the time we have played City, I expect we will be bottom on one or zero points.
Its a long season, Arsenal didnt win a game in August last year and finished 5th.

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 06 Aug 22 12.59pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

Your anxiety will be through the roof by the time we have played City, I expect we will be bottom on one or zero points.
Its a long season, Arsenal didnt win a game in August last year and finished 5th.

My anxiety is always through the roof painter no matter what!

The next few games Iím more concerned with performances than points.

Would be nice to get to 1,2 or dare I suggest 4 or 6 points out of them but Iím more hopeful of improved performances and promise.

We werenít awful yesterday by a long chalk, just disappointing. That either inability or intention not to play through the midfield a concern as is the woeful set piece defending and finishing.

None of those bode well and whilst the belief nothing will change is consuming itís not ludicrous either to consider it a concern if not food for thought. Still very early days of course but all the footballing heartache, anxiety and fury is soon forgotten in the longing for the season to begin!!!

On another aside, was a lovely day yesterday lol Itís not the first time of course but a very unusual footballing occasion for me!

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 06 Aug 22 1.12pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

My anxiety is always through the roof painter no matter what!

The next few games Iím more concerned with performances than points.

Would be nice to get to 1,2 or dare I suggest 4 or 6 points out of them but Iím more hopeful of improved performances and promise.

We werenít awful yesterday by a long chalk, just disappointing. That either inability or intention not to play through the midfield a concern as is the woeful set piece defending and finishing.

None of those bode well and whilst the belief nothing will change is consuming itís not ludicrous either to consider it a concern if not food for thought. Still very early days of course but all the footballing heartache, anxiety and fury is soon forgotten in the longing for the season to begin!!!

On another aside, was a lovely day yesterday lol Itís not the first time of course but a very unusual footballing occasion for me!

I have us down for maybe a win and a draw in our first five games. But then things are going to improve. We have runs of teams we will beat.
Our paper thin midfield is the problem. We've effectively lost Gallagher and Kouyate and replaced with Doucoure. With the absence of Jimmy Mac too, we are well down onidfield.
Schlupp didn't feature at all, forgot he was playing. Maybe I'm harsh, but Doucoure looked lazy. Eze tried too hard and lost the ball too much. Only player I can think of is Reidewald, and I'm thinking - if you think he's going to save us, I must be desperate.
We have to buy or loan in Central midfield two players or someone with an amazing engine, simple as that. Or else we will be 15-16 at best. Just above relegation all season is not going to keep our manager, our board or our fans happy. It'll be deja vu rather than progress.

 


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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 06 Aug 22 1.13pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

And there was that classic Hughes moment, 2 seconds on the pitch, bundled straight off the ball. About as strong as my niece.

 


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View Texas Eagle's Profile Texas Eagle Flag San Antonio, Texas (via Adelaide) 06 Aug 22 1.34pm Send a Private Message to Texas Eagle Add Texas Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Booted Eagle

Have to take your chances when you get them, particularly in a tight game like last night. Unfortunately Edouard and Eze both fluffed their lines. Whilst heading does not seem to be Edouard's strong point he looked ineffective for his time on the pitch. Was in/out last season through no fault of his own but hoping for more from him. Genuinely surprised that Mateta did not start. Eze might of been wiser to chip the keeper from his position. Let's hope we can improve in front of goal in future games. Expect with Tekkers long awaited departure we might be able to get somebody new in. Same set piece deficiencies in defense which was also frustrating to see. In conclusion not a disaster but hoping for better. COYP !!

Edited by Booted Eagle (06 Aug 2022 10.55am)

Edited by Booted Eagle (06 Aug 2022 10.59am)

Agree with pretty much all you said. Eze can't/won't defend which pretty much leaves us on the backfoot when we lose the ball. Mind you we have many issues in midfield after that display. Yes Mateta has to start, he's a genuine threat in the air, I'd also start the new boy Ebiowei, he gotta be a better option than Schlupp or Ayew. Also like to see Mitchell get back quicker after he's forays in attack. He's leaving us exposed at the back for which we have no cover. However the back four did really well considering the ease which Arsenal moved the ball through midfield.

 


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View Palace Old Geezer's Profile Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 06 Aug 22 1.56pm Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

My anxiety is always through the roof painter no matter what!

The next few games Iím more concerned with performances than points.

Would be nice to get to 1,2 or dare I suggest 4 or 6 points out of them but Iím more hopeful of improved performances and promise.

We werenít awful yesterday by a long chalk, just disappointing. That either inability or intention not to play through the midfield a concern as is the woeful set piece defending and finishing.

None of those bode well and whilst the belief nothing will change is consuming itís not ludicrous either to consider it a concern if not food for thought. Still very early days of course but all the footballing heartache, anxiety and fury is soon forgotten in the longing for the season to begin!!!

On another aside, was a lovely day yesterday lol Itís not the first time of course but a very unusual footballing occasion for me!

I agree Nick. It's early days after all, just one game. It certainly wasn't all bad as we saw in the second half.

I'm a big Eze fan and was aghast when he didn't take, what looked like, a sitter, but he'll not miss next time. Anderson was our best player and looked to like he was trying to emulate Gallagher, even his hairband. Plenty of Ayew critics on here, but, at least he has a lot of movement. PV obviously thinks a lot of him.

Tell you what, I'm keeping an eye on the match at Craven Cottage, and Liverpool have just equalised against Fulham who have been playing some fabulous football with real intensity. On this form Fulham will take some beating. We need to show the same sparkle.

 


Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.

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View Oddball2021's Profile Oddball2021 Flag Adelaide 06 Aug 22 2.20pm Send a Private Message to Oddball2021 Add Oddball2021 as a friend

We'll be right. Look at Arse's budget to ours, and we were dominating them 2nd half. Gosh, some bad luck with penalties not given twice for handballs that last season would have put Zaha on the 12 yard spot. I am now waiting to see what happens when the top six are playing 'others' and 'others' hands touch footballs in the box. Palace played well and should have scored twice from set plays - we could have won 4-2 or 4-3. That's huge given Arsenal's budget and form. I personally would have had Mateta playing over Eddy because Mateta's done nothing to lose his spot, but I was okay with Eddy - he should have scored, Eze too.
So, we are playing super-well early in the season! 1. Sort out set pieces, 2. hit the back of the net. It's really up to Palace admin and PV. Admin to fill those gaps of midfielder and striker, and PV to sort out the passengers: I'm not saying bench them, I'm saying sort them out: Hughes - go to the gym and put some muscle on, Milo - take some pills and speed up and keep awake and stop fouling 30 metres from Guaita's goal, Ayew - I'm not sure. He's an enigma. More glimpses of genius more often please or warm the bench. Last season we did Arse 3-0, this match they do us 2-0 with a fair bit of luck. No luck when we did them 3-0. So let's be happy and positive the future looks bright!

Edited by Oddball2021 (07 Aug 2022 7.06am)

 

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View rollercoaster's Profile rollercoaster Flag Cornwall 06 Aug 22 2.25pm Send a Private Message to rollercoaster Add rollercoaster as a friend

Whilst predicting this result I am still disappointed. Why cant we fix our inability to deal with free kicks? Why do we so often start a season apparently unprepared? Why do a team of apparently skillful players miss so many clear-cut chances?

Used to us losing games, just like to see something different.

 

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