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 Teddy Eagle  23 Aug 22 3.32pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
Not so, many in the Labour party, and the left generally, were against joining what was then the EEC as they saw it (quite rightly) as a capitalist price rigging, protectionist racket. Also the far left thought it would strategically weaken the communist block. Apologies. I was trying to be ironic.
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croydon proud  Any european country i fancy! 23 Aug 22 3.36pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Seems to be the comprehension problem again. Ken/kin- who"s listening when that dialect comes out? My response is to get the fcuk away from this cnut asap!
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My post was obviously in jest- but if someone really talked that stuff to me?You are going back 40 odd years Teddy about joining, you might as well criticise Nye Bevan for not doing a better job at creating the NHS-due to the staff shortages due to freedom- aka- brexit! Matov  23 Aug 22 3.38pm |
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Those on the Left who still believed in the class struggle were always anti-EU for all kinds of reasons. What changed was the adoption of identity over class as the defining cause for many on the left, hence why they started to love the EU. Many in the TU movement remained hostile to the EU.
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell. |
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| croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 23 Aug 22 3.41pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
Those on the Left who still believed in the class struggle were always anti-EU for all kinds of reasons. What changed was the adoption of identity over class as the defining cause for many on the left, hence why they started to love the EU. Many in the TU movement remained hostile to the EU. Good post Matov, nothing is black and white once you go in to the details, who would have wagered that MICK Lynch and the RMT were for brexit?
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 georgenorman 23 Aug 22 3.44pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Apologies. I was trying to be ironic. Sorry, I didn't read the post you were answering, just took your remarks at face value!
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| croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 23 Aug 22 3.44pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
Those on the Left who still believed in the class struggle were always anti-EU for all kinds of reasons. What changed was the adoption of identity over class as the defining cause for many on the left, hence why they started to love the EU. Many in the TU movement remained hostile to the EU. I would imagine that most who voted brexit, would never have known that the commie cnut Corbyn was on there side!
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| croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 23 Aug 22 3.46pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
Sorry, I didn't read the post you were answering, just took your remarks at face value! Don"t apologise George, it"s the accent!
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| martin2412 Living The Dream 23 Aug 22 3.51pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That's political posturing, which can change rapidly if it is seen to be necessary. Did a majority want us out? A tiny majority who voted did, but that's not everyone, especially those too young to vote then, but could now. In any case, things change. Experiences teach lessons. People accept they made wrong decisions, which we all do. The beauty of democracy is nothing is ever cast in stone forever. Make a mistake and you can correct it. In time, we will. Perhaps not now, but we will. In 1971 I was too young to vote us in, but by 1981 I was old enough to vote us out, but didn't get the opportunity for another 35 years. What a bloody stupid statement that those too young to vote then, may now vote for a different outcome. Tough.
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| Matov 23 Aug 22 3.57pm |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
I would imagine that most who voted brexit, would never have known that the commie cnut Corbyn was on there side! Maybe if the man had shown some balls back in November 2018 and sacked Starmer, as he should have, when he went against agreed Cabinet policy over a second referendum, then the world would be very different. But he did not. When push came to the shove, no matter what you might think about Corybn, he failed to actually stand up for what he believed in when it truly mattered. Sitting on the back-benches and spouting off is easy. But when it came to do so when he was in a position of authority, he caved in. The man had no spine. He would have been an appalling Prime Minister.
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| JRW2 Dulwich 23 Aug 22 4.09pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
As that's exactly the type of sanctimonious bs a xenophobic regressive would write, it can safely be ignored. But apparently can't be ignored by one of the most opinionated and self-satisfied posters on this site.
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cryrst  The garden of England 23 Aug 22 4.30pm |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
Ken/kin- who"s listening when that dialect comes out? My response is to get the fcuk away from this cnut asap! More truths about the nhs
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| Spiderman Horsham 23 Aug 22 5.00pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
Maybe if the man had shown some balls back in November 2018 and sacked Starmer, as he should have, when he went against agreed Cabinet policy over a second referendum, then the world would be very different. But he did not. When push came to the shove, no matter what you might think about Corybn, he failed to actually stand up for what he believed in when it truly mattered. Sitting on the back-benches and spouting off is easy. But when it came to do so when he was in a position of authority, he caved in. The man had no spine. He would have been an appalling Prime Minister. Someone better check on Steeley, he could be in meltdown reading this
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