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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Online Flag Truro Cornwall 10 Oct 22 11.53am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

So businesses have to spend money installing private cubicles just to appease transgender, even though, until now, their customer base may have been more than happy with the arrangement. Pandering to the minority

No.

To satisfy the needs of anyone who doesn't feel able to, or ought not, get changed in a public space.

I no longer do, because of a medical condition. I don't feel comfortable. Why should I be disadvantaged?

Their "customer base" is diverse. A "one size fits all" answer is clearly not good enough.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Online Flag 10 Oct 22 1.08pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

No.

To satisfy the needs of anyone who doesn't feel able to, or ought not, get changed in a public space.

I no longer do, because of a medical condition. I don't feel comfortable. Why should I be disadvantaged?

Their "customer base" is diverse. A "one size fits all" answer is clearly not good enough.

Who's going to pay for this? Tall people have to pay for extra leg room on aeroplanes and that demand isn't out of personal preference but physical necessity.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 10 Oct 22 1.56pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

No.

To satisfy the needs of anyone who doesn't feel able to, or ought not, get changed in a public space.

I no longer do, because of a medical condition. I don't feel comfortable. Why should I be disadvantaged?

Their "customer base" is diverse. A "one size fits all" answer is clearly not good enough.

But, as I said in my post, if their customer base has been satisfied until now, why should they incur extra cost to satisfy a very small minority. As you have previously stated regarding changing rooms, donít use it if your not happy with the arrangements.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Online Flag Truro Cornwall 10 Oct 22 5.39pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Who's going to pay for this? Tall people have to pay for extra leg room on aeroplanes and that demand isn't out of personal preference but physical necessity.

Thatís just being pedantic.

There always used to be individual cubicles. Installing a few would hardly be a big expense and would probably both increase usage and reassurance. Win-win!

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Online Flag 10 Oct 22 5.45pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Thatís just being pedantic.

There always used to be individual cubicles. Installing a few would hardly be a big expense and would probably both increase usage and reassurance. Win-win!

Still expecting others to pay for personal preferences. If it's that important go somewhere else. Or get changed in the toilet.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 10 Oct 22 5.48pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Biden admin requires trans women to register for draft if they were born male.

'US citizens or immigrants who are born male and changed their gender to female are still required to register. Individuals who are born female and changed their gender to male are not required to register,' reads the guidance on requirements from the Selective Service System.

The Selective Service does not require those who were born female but identify as transgender to register for the draft, only those who were born male.

I'm living in a land of fruitcakes and clowns, who don't even believe their own virtue signalling......and that's just those in charge.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Online Flag Truro Cornwall 10 Oct 22 5.48pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

But, as I said in my post, if their customer base has been satisfied until now, why should they incur extra cost to satisfy a very small minority. As you have previously stated regarding changing rooms, donít use it if your not happy with the arrangements.

Clearly it hasnít been satisfied or this discussion wouldnít be happening.

Some users are reluctant to use the facilities because they are worried, however unreasonably, about encountering transgenders, whilst some transgenders may not use them for fear or either embarrassment, or upsetting others.

Then there are the shy or people like me.

Their customer base isnít just a group who you approve of. Itís everyone, warts and all, and their needs ought to be accommodated.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Online Flag Truro Cornwall 10 Oct 22 5.55pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Still expecting others to pay for personal preferences. If it's that important go somewhere else. Or get changed in the toilet.

Thatís daft.

A local government facility is paid for via council taxes. Which come from us all. So we all have the right to be able to access them.

Do you expect wheelchair users to pay for ramps?.

Commercial businesses respond to opportunities, and the law.. If thereís money to be made they will. If legislation demands it they must.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Online Flag 10 Oct 22 6.02pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Thatís daft.

A local government facility is paid for via council taxes. Which come from us all. So we all have the right to be able to access them.

Do you expect wheelchair users to pay for ramps?.

Commercial businesses respond to opportunities, and the law.. If thereís money to be made they will. If legislation demands it they must.


Wheelchair ramps aren't used out of personal preference.

Legislation is already in place.


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Online Flag Truro Cornwall 10 Oct 22 6.10pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle


Wheelchair ramps aren't used out of personal preference.

Legislation is already in place.


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Maybe this will be too soon enough.

Itís in the same category. Weíll see.


 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 10 Oct 22 6.31pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Clearly it hasnít been satisfied or this discussion wouldnít be happening.

Some users are reluctant to use the facilities because they are worried, however unreasonably, about encountering transgenders, whilst some transgenders may not use them for fear or either embarrassment, or upsetting others.

Then there are the shy or people like me.

Their customer base isnít just a group who you approve of. Itís everyone, warts and all, and their needs ought to be accommodated.

How do you know it hasnít be satisfied? A small business who has had a regular customer base for years, who have been satisfied with the arrangements, now have to spend money to satisfy a small minority?
Again you are saying it is unreasonable for people to be worried about encountering transgender, why? Obviously you are not going to take those peopleís views/ worries into consideration so there is no point in continuing this conversation

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 10 Oct 22 6.32pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Maybe this will be too soon enough.

Itís in the same category. Weíll see.


So are you saying transgender are disabled? Good luck with that

 

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