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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Online Flag 08 Oct 22 10.11pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

They aren't feelings. Mine, or anyone else's.

They are the conclusions of the expert medical professionals, based on the science.

Science that says men who feel like women and can't resist swimming should go into women's private space to get changed.
Science that says men who feel like women can tell others who've been women all their lives to educate themselves on how women should react.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Online Flag Truro Cornwall 08 Oct 22 10.13pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Really!, Ffs I give up. Your post intimated that the article did not state it had been cancelled due to her views on transgender, you were totally wrong, as it was quite clearly there. But, as is your want, you have tried to twist it to suit your agenda. If it had been cancelled on Police advice, that would have been commented on by them. I am beginning to think you are just trolling.
The police in Brighton donít take a political neutral stance do they but I suppose you think that police on duty ( to ensure public safety) should cross dress and decorate their cars in pride colours.
If you honestly believe any pro- gender events have been cancelled and it hasnít reached the press, you really are a troll

Edited by Spiderman (08 Oct 2022 7.53pm)

Edited by Spiderman (08 Oct 2022 7.53pm)

Edited by Spiderman (08 Oct 2022 7.56pm)

I just know that you cannot trust newspapers, like the Mail, to present the undiluted truth. They deliberately miss out things to make what was said appear to mean something totally different. Not saying it was based on a police recommendation is exactly the kind of thing they would deliberately omit, as it doesn't fit their narrative.

So I maintain a healthy scepticism. I am not saying you are wrong. I am saying that you cannot know for sure, any more than I can, based on a newspaper report. The only way would be to have either been present at the meeting, or have read the minutes.

If you don't believe newspapers do this, to salve the prejudices of their readership, then you are sadly mistaken. They want you to rush to the judgement they have fed you.

If the police in Brighton decided to cross dress then they could be accused of taking a political stance. Their job is to uphold the law and maintain the peace. If that means recommending events be cancelled, or postponed, they will. Our game at Brighton was postponed, initially because of the train strike, but when that was called off it remained postponed because the police could not guarantee safety as they had insufficient officers available.

I have no idea if any "pro-genderism" events have been called off. It's not something I have been following. If they threatened to create a disturbance I would imagine they might have been.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Online Flag Truro Cornwall 08 Oct 22 10.17pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

So if it was cancelled on police advice; we can obviously expect the plod to put in an appeal against the court ruling ? If not then why not ? I havenít read or heard this is happening !

Why?

The case was won on a technicality.

If a new application is made, everything will need to be considered again. If the police were involved, that's when they would be again.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Online Flag Truro Cornwall 08 Oct 22 10.24pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

I have added to my post, whilst you were posting My rant is over because yo7 canít debate with this that choose to twist facts to suit their own agenda and believe they are always correct. Still several posts and not a mention of Trump,

Edited by Spiderman (08 Oct 2022 7.59pm)

I don't know the facts. That's the point. All we have are newspaper reports, which are far from facts.

So far as I know Trump isn't a transgender, so not part of this discussion. Mind you, with his obsession on his appearance, and hair style, you never can be certain!

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 09 Oct 22 7.57am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Even the BBC says the council banned her.

[Link]


""The event was cancelled by Nottingham City Council who said her views "fly in the face" of its position on transgender rights.""

There is an irony to these feminist activists finding them self banned and de platformed. How many of them in the seventies and eighties tried to do the same to some pale / stale and male who hadn't got the note about womens lib?

Edited by Badger11 (09 Oct 2022 8.01am)

 


One more point

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 09 Oct 22 8.51am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Even the BBC says the council banned her.

[Link]


""The event was cancelled by Nottingham City Council who said her views "fly in the face" of its position on transgender rights.""

There is an irony to these feminist activists finding them self banned and de platformed. How many of them in the seventies and eighties tried to do the same to some pale / stale and male who hadn't got the note about womens lib?

Edited by Badger11 (09 Oct 2022 8.01am)

TBF Badger, I am not sure they went as far as they do these days. Maybe they would had they had access to the internet/ social media but we will never know

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Online Flag Truro Cornwall 09 Oct 22 8.54am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Science that says men who feel like women and can't resist swimming should go into women's private space to get changed.
Science that says men who feel like women can tell others who've been women all their lives to educate themselves on how women should react.

That is the crux of the matter!

They arenít men who ďfeelĒ like women.

They are women who were born with male bodies.

Education is always needed whenever new revelations are discovered.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Online Flag Truro Cornwall 09 Oct 22 9.03am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Even the BBC says the council banned her.

[Link]


""The event was cancelled by Nottingham City Council who said her views "fly in the face" of its position on transgender rights.""

There is an irony to these feminist activists finding them self banned and de platformed. How many of them in the seventies and eighties tried to do the same to some pale / stale and male who hadn't got the note about womens lib?

Edited by Badger11 (09 Oct 2022 8.01am)

I saw that too, but it still doesnít confirm their motivation.

The BBC use agency reports just as much as other media does.

People can disagree with views whilst tolerating them being expressed.

What they cannot do is knowingly permit a risk to public safety.

I donít think we can be certain.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Online Flag 09 Oct 22 9.30am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That is the crux of the matter!

They arenít men who ďfeelĒ like women.

They are women who were born with male bodies.

Education is always needed whenever new revelations are discovered.

So why is swimming such a vital component to this issue?
Making women feel uncomfortable by going into their changing room looks like a quest for victimhood when complaints are made.
You've said you won't get changed with strangers but expect women to accept biological men in their space.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 09 Oct 22 10.00am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I saw that too, but it still doesnít confirm their motivation.

The BBC use agency reports just as much as other media does.

People can disagree with views whilst tolerating them being expressed.

What they cannot do is knowingly permit a risk to public safety.

I donít think we can be certain.


But you are making assumptions.

The council did not say they cancelled the event due to public safety concerns their statement is quite clear as to why they cancelled it.

And now you will not believe the BBC an organisation you defend all the time.

Clutching at straws.

Just looked up Nottingham City Council they are under special measures due to financial mismanagement. Perhaps they ought to focus on delivering services to the communities rather than virtue signalling.

I wonder what the good burghers of Nottingham would prefer they do.

Edited by Badger11 (09 Oct 2022 10.09am)

 


One more point

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That is the crux of the matter!

They arenít men who ďfeelĒ like women.

They are women who were born with male bodies.

Education is always needed whenever new revelations are discovered.

So if their body is male, then it must be the brain that thinks they are female since they have no other female attributes, cannot reproduce as a female and will never suffer from female diseases or conditions even after hormones and surgery.

Glass rods up a blind alley is not equivalence.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Online Flag Truro Cornwall 09 Oct 22 2.52pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

So why is swimming such a vital component to this issue?
Making women feel uncomfortable by going into their changing room looks like a quest for victimhood when complaints are made.
You've said you won't get changed with strangers but expect women to accept biological men in their space.

It's ought not be a vital component to this issue though. It is only because of a fear that a group of people, who mean no harm to anyone, are going to behave in ways they won't. Of course no-one thinks men should be allowed into spaces where they can make women feel uncomfortable. Transgenders aren't though men, so as long as they are discrete, and respectful, other women won't even be aware of their presence, let alone be threatened by them.

It just requires common sense, awareness, respect and compassion to prevail.

 

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