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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 01 Mar 23 5.50pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

i would argue that everybody in NI has all the advantages of living in both the UK and ROI.

both passports, both Worlds open to you. EU or UK.

And also believe that both Westminster & Dublin would rather not own NI. But have inherited the problems from 400 years ago.

The main problem is that there are so many enclaves with passionately held beliefs.....and all conflicting with each other.

my personal preference is a 3 county NI that is 99% Prod and all still part of the UK forever. No peace walls. No sectarian ghettos. No civil strife. And good relations with all other regions.

But sure what would i know ?

Edited by PalazioVecchio (01 Mar 2023 5.59pm)

 


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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 01 Mar 23 6.06pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by m/k mick

In just a few days, the union is safe for quite sometime, Scottish independence on the back burner, and if the Windsor agreement is accepted, the unification of Ireland is history, if they at a later date were offered a vote on unification, would be like turkeys voting for xmas, unification would mean NI becoming part of Europe therefor a border compulsory, all the advantages gone

An interesting take.

My own view is that this current deal is more to do with helping Sunak fight off a challenge from Johnson before the next election than anything to do with NI itself based on the fact that Sunak can never win a GE.

So Starmer comes in and takes us right back into the EU.

But we will see.

As always, timing is everything and suddenly the EU moving on some pretty significant 'red-lines' only makes sense if you accept they wanted to give Sunak a win.

 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 01 Mar 23 6.46pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

It will be interesting to see what sticking points emerge but I think this will get over the line.

The correct procedure in my view, would have been for the NI leader to have been involved in the process earlier why does this have to be agreed over their heads and then presented to them as a fait accompli.

It really depends how bloody minded they wish to be, or if everybody is p****d off with the issue and just wants to move on.

The changes are small beer really the EU has been quite cooperative.

I am amazed to be agreeing with Rees-Mogg I will take a sedative.


 

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View corkery's Profile corkery Flag Cork City 01 Mar 23 7.49pm Send a Private Message to corkery Add corkery as a friend

Is best thing to do with Northern Ireland is to let them pay their own policing bills. The DUP won't back this deal as it means serving under a Fenian.

 


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View Jacey's Profile Jacey Flag 02 Mar 23 2.57pm Send a Private Message to Jacey Add Jacey as a friend

Sulky Boris apparently not in favour of the deal.
Just sour grapes from the clown in chief.

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Edited by Jacey (02 Mar 2023 2.57pm)

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 02 Mar 23 4.08pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Jacey

Sulky Boris apparently not in favour of the deal.
Just sour grapes from the clown in chief.

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Edited by Jacey (02 Mar 2023 2.57pm)

It is just another step by Remainers trying to unravel Brexit. First they conspired to get rid of Boris with the Labour Parties eager assistance, and now this.
Wait till Labour get back in power. Then you will see the Remainers really come out from under their rocks.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (02 Mar 2023 4.10pm)

 

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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 02 Mar 23 7.25pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

It is just another step by Remainers trying to unravel Brexit. First they conspired to get rid of Boris with the Labour Parties eager assistance, and now this.
Wait till Labour get back in power. Then you will see the Remainers really come out from under their rocks.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (02 Mar 2023 4.10pm)

100%. And the more I absorb what has happened, the more I am utterly convinced it has been done to give Sunak the win by way of scuppering Johnson's attempt to come back before the next GE. Johnson is the one who scares Labour the most because the man, despite being the despicable piece of crap he is, does have the magic sauce when it comes to getting the voters out.

Sunak is just a place-holder.

 


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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 05 May 23 5.27pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

as a matter of urgency, they need to re-start the Parliament in Ulster.
Things are getting ugly up there. And both sides seem to be lining up for a bun-fight. The Polarization into two extremes.....with few occupying the middle-ground.....can only end badly.

I still believe in re-partitioning Ulster into 3 North-Easterly counties....99% Protestant and loyal to the Crown. And the new NI to live in peace & harmony with the rest of ROI.

A united Ireland is an extremist idea.
And a true blue 6 counties, without any Catholic civil rights......is a thing of the past. The extremist view on the other side of the same coin.

the link below is ugly, and not an isolated example.

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 20 May 23 9.16pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Local council elections.

More evidence of the need for extremists to stop posturing.....on both sides.

 


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View corkery's Profile corkery Flag Cork City 01 Jun 23 7.51pm Send a Private Message to corkery Add corkery as a friend

There's a video going around on the Belfast Telegraph of a UVF taxi driver putting a gun to a man while driving his taxi.

 


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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 12 Jun 23 4.39pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

surely this wins Top Prize for hypocrisy.

An Orange Order Parade complaining about other peoples "blatant acts of sectarianism". It would be comic & funny if not for the gravity of the situation.

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View eaglesdare's Profile eaglesdare Flag 12 Jun 23 4.54pm Send a Private Message to eaglesdare Add eaglesdare as a friend

Why in the world would anyone want to a "United Ireland" is beyond me. The Irish government cant even look after any county outside of dublin let alone a few more up north.

 

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