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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Online Flag Truro Cornwall 08 Jun 23 11.33am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by eaglesdare

Yes they couldnt have done all thier Tik Tok dancing videos without the lockdowns. *Rolls eyes*

There wasn't much dancing at our local hospital. Just a lot of sick people and a very stressed staff. They still are stressed.

 


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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 08 Jun 23 11.37am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That's the point, isn't it? There is no evidence for something that didn't happen, which is why it's so easy to point at things that did and make assumptions.

We know all the things that you list. What we don't know is whether things would have been better, or worse, not doing them.

If the initial consensus of the experts was that locking down was the safest route, then that was the right decision. Experts almost certainly get more things right than non-experts.

Experts like Ferguson who resigned after breaking the rules because he thought he was immune after having caught it once?

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That's the point, isn't it? There is no evidence for something that didn't happen, which is why it's so easy to point at things that did and make assumptions.

We know all the things that you list. What we don't know is whether things would have been better, or worse, not doing them.

If the initial consensus of the experts was that locking down was the safest route, then that was the right decision. Experts almost certainly get more things right than non-experts.

Once again WE I will remind you that there are direct comparisons from the US between states which took very different strategies but you choose to consistently ignore this as it does not support your continued lockdown zealotry.

More open minded and less blinkered people might reflect on the growing evidence emerging that perhaps shutting down society for nigh on 2 years was a terrible mistake.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 08 Jun 23 12.59pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Eden Eagle

Once again WE I will remind you that there are direct comparisons from the US between states which took very different strategies but you choose to consistently ignore this as it does not support your continued lockdown zealotry.

More open minded and less blinkered people might reflect on the growing evidence emerging that perhaps shutting down society for nigh on 2 years was a terrible mistake.

And the effects will be felt for years.


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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 08 Jun 23 1.21pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend


The view from another expert.


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Online Flag Truro Cornwall 08 Jun 23 5.04pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Experts like Ferguson who resigned after breaking the rules because he thought he was immune after having caught it once?

I think he was just stupid rather than believing he is immune. When I see people quoting some of the things he said at the time and claiming because they weren't seen, they were wrong I get appalled at the way they reach conclusions.

They were never predictions. They were a range of possible scenarios based on detailed modelling using the data available at the time, which was limited.

There will always be a worst-case scenario and governments must prepare for a worst-case scenario, without expecting it will actually happen. That's why we got the Nightingale hospitals and why the public were alerted to the potential threat

 


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Originally posted by Eden Eagle

Once again WE I will remind you that there are direct comparisons from the US between states which took very different strategies but you choose to consistently ignore this as it does not support your continued lockdown zealotry.

More open minded and less blinkered people might reflect on the growing evidence emerging that perhaps shutting down society for nigh on 2 years was a terrible mistake.

US states are themselves different. What works in Florida won't necessarily be replicated elsewhere.

More importantly, though we are very different to the USA, both in demographics and climate. You simply cannot draw any conclusions based on such false comparisons.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Online Flag Truro Cornwall 08 Jun 23 5.15pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle


The view from another expert.


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I don't doubt we will have learned a lot and should an identical pandemic strike in the future will modify our approach.

However, hindsight is always a wonderful thing. You can only know what you know at the time. Learning is fine. Claiming you knew when you were guessing isn't.

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

US states are themselves different. What works in Florida won't necessarily be replicated elsewhere.

More importantly, though we are very different to the USA, both in demographics and climate. You simply cannot draw any conclusions based on such false comparisons.

Sturgeon’s much stricter Covid rules did not keep Scotland’s deaths below England’s.

 

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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle


The view from another expert.


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Of course, is true, but not the point.

Children have years ahead to recover. Those who might have died if we didn't lockdown would just be dead.


 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I think he was just stupid rather than believing he is immune. When I see people quoting some of the things he said at the time and claiming because they weren't seen, they were wrong I get appalled at the way they reach conclusions.

They were never predictions. They were a range of possible scenarios based on detailed modelling using the data available at the time, which was limited.

There will always be a worst-case scenario and governments must prepare for a worst-case scenario, without expecting it will actually happen. That's why we got the Nightingale hospitals and why the public were alerted to the potential threat

Hopefully we've found an another expert who isn't stupid. Every one of Ferguson's projections has been wrong by miles.

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Of course, is true, but not the point.

Children have years ahead to recover. Those who might have died if we didn't lockdown would just be dead.


So what happens during the next flu epidemic? Another lockdown?

 

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