hmm, not so sure about that. the overriding success is to be winning, surely. Chelsea never played 'entertaining' football, they were just super good at winning stuff.

Not even sure what Entertaining football even is/ The world has an obsession with possession based build up from the back football. Unless that's played v.well, it bores my t*ts off. It too easily descending into slow, patient build up ending with 11 men behind the ball.
The most Entertaining for me is Man Utds team of the 90s, which 'swashbuckling' would be a good description. High energy, toughness in the tackle, Fast Counters, precision, pace and style.
That, to me is English football at it's best. Yes you lose, but win or lose, you do so with with heart and passion.
It's all been washed away with Guardiola's Barcalona.

"It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"

'We' may have loved it, but we were generally despised for it.

Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

It's always fun seeing reading the posts explaining why PV has got it wrong from people who have probably less than 1% of his knowledge and experience.

It's all about opinions of course.

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

You could say the same of the likes of Bobby Moore, Bobby Charlton and more recently Ray Wilkins, Tony Adams and Frank Lampard.
Being a great player, and having a great deal more football knowledge than the average fan, does not necessarily equate to being a great manager .
If one accepts the manager is always right ,when his decisions are queried by supporters, you may as well do away with discussion forums.
No doubt managers would be very content with this outcome.

It seems clubs will do anything for a couple of results and sacking the manager does seem to come with a subsequent 'bounce'.

We can only hope it's a 'dead cat' one.

Seems like the weekend was a big one for the bottom clubs.... our game in hand and cushion has all but gone.. we buckle against Brighton and those that picked up points do it again and we are looking over our shoulder and smelling the breath of relegation and here's the question... sobering as it is...

Do we have any player or coach prepared to handle a relegation scrap???

This was once a quality forum....