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PJEagle London 14 Feb 23 6.34pm
Originally posted by Swindy Methinks the wrong man is getting a lot of flak. After a highly encouraging season last time out, the last 2 transfer windows have little short of awful - PV simply hasn't been backed properly. summer Nothing changes significantly until there is significant change at the top. There may be 8 or 9 players or whatever is out of contract in the summer, but unless, and it is not certain, Mr Textor again puts his hand in his pocket as 2 summers ago, Mr Parish will in time-honoured fashion, no doubt do it on the cheap, plugging gaps with some of the Academy lads, which is not likely to be immediately fruitful in the top flight. We do need major recruitment in the summer. It's great that we've got a vibrant youth academy, but it's a long term project, with no automatic short term gain. Mitchell has proved to be a solid LB but that's about it from the academy. The summer recruitment window is absolutely crucial, and Textor seems too busy buying other clubs
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PJEagle

London 14 Feb 23 6.34pm

Originally posted by Swindy

Methinks the wrong man is getting a lot of flak. After a highly encouraging season last time out, the last 2 transfer windows have little short of awful - PV simply hasn't been backed properly. summer
Nothing changes significantly until there is significant change at the top. There may be 8 or 9 players or whatever is out of contract in the summer, but unless, and it is not certain, Mr Textor again puts his hand in his pocket as 2 summers ago, Mr Parish will in time-honoured fashion, no doubt do it on the cheap, plugging gaps with some of the Academy lads, which is not likely to be immediately fruitful in the top flight.

We do need major recruitment in the summer. It's great that we've got a vibrant youth academy, but it's a long term project, with no automatic short term gain. Mitchell has proved to be a solid LB but that's about it from the academy. The summer recruitment window is absolutely crucial, and Textor seems too busy buying other clubs

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Hrolf The Ganger 14 Feb 23 8.39pm
Originally posted by PJEagle There is a glaring discrepancy between the number of black players, and the number of black managers. Why do we think that is? So you think that a glaring disproportion of Black players should mean a disproportion of Black managers, like they somehow automatically deserve the right? Absurd. One Black manager in the PL is roughly representative of the population. Playing football and managing players are totally different skills. Only a tiny proportion of White players become managers.
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14 Feb 23 8.39pm

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Originally posted by PJEagle

There is a glaring discrepancy between the number of black players, and the number of black managers. Why do we think that is?

So you think that a glaring disproportion of Black players should mean a disproportion of Black managers, like they somehow automatically deserve the right?

Absurd.

One Black manager in the PL is roughly representative of the population.

Playing football and managing players are totally different skills.
Only a tiny proportion of White players become managers.

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DANGERCLOSE london 14 Feb 23 8.44pm
I'm sticking with PV for the time being, we need a good summer in the transfer market and look at things at Christmas. I hope Zaha stays and we get in CB,RB,ST and maybe upgrade Mitchell.
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london 14 Feb 23 8.44pm

I'm sticking with PV for the time being, we need a good summer in the transfer market and look at things at Christmas.

I hope Zaha stays and we get in CB,RB,ST and maybe upgrade Mitchell.

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Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 14 Feb 23 9.16pm
Originally posted by Tickled pink Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad I would like to see one less black manager[/quote When he turn things around and we start to appear as good as we were last season ..you'll be saying what I wonder? Great, i was wrong, he is a great manager “That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn
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Lanzarote 14 Feb 23 9.16pm

Originally posted by Tickled pink

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

I would like to see one less black manager[/quote

When he turn things around and we start to appear as good as we were last season ..you'll be saying what I wonder?

Great, i was wrong, he is a great manager

“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

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Vaibow vancouver/croydon 15 Feb 23 2.42am
If PV never had the career he had, say let's swap it with Shaun Derry.. no way he's getting the job.. This was once a quality forum....
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vancouver/croydon 15 Feb 23 2.42am

If PV never had the career he had, say let's swap it with Shaun Derry.. no way he's getting the job..

This was once a quality forum....

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Midlands Eagle 15 Feb 23 5.59am
Originally posted by PJEagle The summer recruitment window is absolutely crucial, and Textor seems too busy buying other clubs Why is it Textor's fault? We have two more Americans as well as an English shareholder / director so why is all the invective aimed at the one shareholder who has actually put his hand in his pocket?
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Originally posted by PJEagle

The summer recruitment window is absolutely crucial, and Textor seems too busy buying other clubs

Why is it Textor's fault? We have two more Americans as well as an English shareholder / director so why is all the invective aimed at the one shareholder who has actually put his hand in his pocket?

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samprior Hamburg 15 Feb 23 6.04am
Originally posted by Vaibow If PV never had the career he had, say let's swap it with Shaun Derry.. no way he's getting the job.. Yet he did his badges, came through the coaching system at Man City, coached a top US team (joke league) and a decent French team. Not the worst CV in the premier league tbh.
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samprior

Hamburg 15 Feb 23 6.04am

Originally posted by Vaibow

If PV never had the career he had, say let's swap it with Shaun Derry.. no way he's getting the job..

Yet he did his badges, came through the coaching system at Man City, coached a top US team (joke league) and a decent French team. Not the worst CV in the premier league tbh.

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MrRobbo Purley 15 Feb 23 9.14am
Originally posted by Vaibow If PV never had the career he had, say let's swap it with Shaun Derry.. no way he's getting the job.. Lets all be happy that you are not calling the shots
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MrRobbo

Purley 15 Feb 23 9.14am

Originally posted by Vaibow

If PV never had the career he had, say let's swap it with Shaun Derry.. no way he's getting the job..

Lets all be happy that you are not calling the shots

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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 15 Feb 23 10.16am
Originally posted by Vaibow If PV never had the career he had, say let's swap it with Shaun Derry.. no way he's getting the job.. If Shaun Derry hadn't had the playing career he did, he wouldn't have been in the job he was at Palace. It certainly wouldn't have been on the back of his management credentials. Old, Ungifted and White
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Shoreham-by-Sea 15 Feb 23 10.16am

Originally posted by Vaibow

If PV never had the career he had, say let's swap it with Shaun Derry.. no way he's getting the job..

If Shaun Derry hadn't had the playing career he did, he wouldn't have been in the job he was at Palace. It certainly wouldn't have been on the back of his management credentials.

Old, Ungifted and White

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Badger11 Beckenham 15 Feb 23 10.30am
Originally posted by NEILLO If Shaun Derry hadn't had the playing career he did, he wouldn't have been in the job he was at Palace. It certainly wouldn't have been on the back of his management credentials. I think that's a valid point. Parish can be too loyal sometimes. Edited by Badger11 (15 Feb 2023 10.31am) One more point
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Badger11

Beckenham 15 Feb 23 10.30am

Originally posted by NEILLO

If Shaun Derry hadn't had the playing career he did, he wouldn't have been in the job he was at Palace. It certainly wouldn't have been on the back of his management credentials.

I think that's a valid point. Parish can be too loyal sometimes.

Edited by Badger11 (15 Feb 2023 10.31am)

One more point

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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 15 Feb 23 10.44am
Originally posted by Badger11 I think that's a valid point. Parish can be too loyal sometimes. Edited by Badger11 (15 Feb 2023 10.31am) I agree however I feel as though Parish has worked hard on the culture at the club which can occasionally be interpreted as something other than good intent. I've noticed the complaints around Social Media, loyalty to ex-players, other ventures so on and so forth which tbh will always be subject to scrutiny if the playing side of things isn't great. I prefer to see it in a positive light as 'A Palace fan trying to promote a unified club with a shared culture for the benefit of the club' as opposed to anything else but on my less than happy days have fallen into this trap. Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!
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The Democratic Republic of Kent 15 Feb 23 10.44am

Originally posted by Badger11

I think that's a valid point. Parish can be too loyal sometimes.

Edited by Badger11 (15 Feb 2023 10.31am)

I agree however I feel as though Parish has worked hard on the culture at the club which can occasionally be interpreted as something other than good intent.

I've noticed the complaints around Social Media, loyalty to ex-players, other ventures so on and so forth which tbh will always be subject to scrutiny if the playing side of things isn't great.

I prefer to see it in a positive light as 'A Palace fan trying to promote a unified club with a shared culture for the benefit of the club' as opposed to anything else but on my less than happy days have fallen into this trap.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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Palace Old Geezer Midhurst 15 Feb 23 11.03am
Originally posted by Nicholas91 I prefer to see it in a positive light as 'A Palace fan trying to promote a unified club with a shared culture for the benefit of the club' I'm also inclined to agree with this point of view Nick. On the whole he has done a great job at the Palace and I hope he gives PV the opportunity to persevere during this period of learning so we continue to grow and become consistently successful. Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.
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Originally posted by Nicholas91

I prefer to see it in a positive light as 'A Palace fan trying to promote a unified club with a shared culture for the benefit of the club'

I'm also inclined to agree with this point of view Nick. On the whole he has done a great job at the Palace and I hope he gives PV the opportunity to persevere during this period of learning so we continue to grow and become consistently successful.

Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.

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