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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 12 Mar 23 9.47pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by EddieMac

Since we beat West Ham we have failed to beat Villa, Brentford, Brighton, Fulham. We have not exactly played City every week. I wouldn’t have us as favourites to beat a single team in this division at the moment. We are in serious trouble.

Should we lose to Leicester,after suffering losses to Brighton and Arsenal,God forbid, I will form this viewpoint.

Edited by Willo (12 Mar 2023 9.48pm)

 

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View Vaibow's Profile Vaibow Flag vancouver/croydon 12 Mar 23 9.52pm Send a Private Message to Vaibow Add Vaibow as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

I think Brighton is a telling game - we have to be in the game against our rivals. Tame display, no shots, abject defeat = gone in my opinion. A manager has to be able to demonstrably motivate a side.

Parish will want to see a fight against Brighton, he will want to see passion and a real go. If we limp to a defeat it will show that PV just doesn't get CPFC or what we are about.

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 12 Mar 23 10.00pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Vaibow

Parish will want to see a fight against Brighton, he will want to see passion and a real go. If we limp to a defeat it will show that PV just doesn't get CPFC or what we are about.

Brighton have their fullbacks moving into midfield akin to those at Man C and this will prove a particular tactical challenge.

An abject defeat will herald a chorus of execration aimed at the players and Vieira.Supporters will be in a state of apoplexy, coils of smoke rising from heads.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 12 Mar 23 10.08pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

Should we lose to Leicester,after suffering losses to Brighton and Arsenal,God forbid, I will form this viewpoint.

Edited by Willo (12 Mar 2023 9.48pm)

Willo, you have had this viewpoint for about 3 years

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 12 Mar 23 10.17pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman


Willo, you have had this viewpoint for about 3 years

I appreciate that I have been an ancient Elijah of doom, however this season I have been a tad more positive. Alas it would appear that my positivity has been mis-placed and been replaced by genuine concern.
My needle has not fallen on 'Serious trouble' as yet but the direction of travel is taking it towards that destination.

 

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View Tim Gypsy Hill '64's Profile Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Flag Stoke sub normal 13 Mar 23 1.23am Send a Private Message to Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Add Tim Gypsy Hill '64 as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

I think the context Tim is we’ve set a record for not having an effort on target, bottom of the table for attacking statistics, months without winning, out of both cups, have the lowest work rate in the league and once again have showed little to suggest that is going to change.

Sack a manager now? Yes, this would be exactly the time most managers would expect to get sacked.and the facts back that up. I just can’t see the case to keep him on. Whether anyone likes it or not I think he’ll be gone soon. The only thing I can say at this juncture is the tough run we’ve had but even saying so myself it sounds like a very weak excuse.

Laying all this on the manager is purely based on emotion. Half way through the season, we were mid table. We still are now, after playing teams who are above us. It's like sailing a badly constructed boat through a storm and the boat is taking on water. But the storm is almost over. And neither of those factors are the fault of the captain, or manager in our case. But let's chuck him overboard anyway. And when the storm ends, we'll still have a badly constructed boat taking on water. But now we have no captain/manager.

Edited by Tim Gypsy Hill '64 (13 Mar 2023 1.25am)

 


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View viveasheagle's Profile viveasheagle Flag perth 13 Mar 23 2.49am Send a Private Message to viveasheagle Add viveasheagle as a friend

I see a lot of posts mentioning we are ok defensively. I think the context needs to be put in place in that if we play with most of our team in our own half we don't look like conceding many goals. Problem is if we win the ball there is no one to pass to in a forward position or we chip it up to Wilf who is easily out muscled. The problem is that our better acting players - the likes of Olise and Eze are not good when they are called on to do the defensive side of the game. Olise as well as conceding the penalty did not always track the runs of Ake. Eze has had similar issues when he has played meaning the manager is reluctant to play both in the same team. I also think our full back's are collectively 2 of the weaker ones compared to the other team's in the premier league. Again in the last few games we don't see them support the front players meaning our front players are isolated. Again part of the reason is the front players are not able to hold on to the ball meaning if we the ball is lost and our full backs are up the field we are vulnerable to a counter attack. Lakonga looks a good addition and if we play the ball out from the back through the middle he can help find our forward players.
I do question the selection of Milivojevic - 2 or 3 of his early challenges were so late he not only missed the ball but also missed the player. If he had collected the player it would have been a straight red on at least 2 occasions and this was in the first 15 minutes.

 

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View PJEagle's Profile PJEagle Flag London 13 Mar 23 4.57am Send a Private Message to PJEagle Add PJEagle as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I appreciate that I have been an ancient Elijah of doom, however this season I have been a tad more positive. Alas it would appear that my positivity has been mis-placed and been replaced by genuine concern.
My needle has not fallen on 'Serious trouble' as yet but the direction of travel is taking it towards that destination.

Trust your instincts Willo!

 

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View kevlee's Profile kevlee Flag born Wandsworth emigrated to Lanc... 13 Mar 23 8.04am Send a Private Message to kevlee Add kevlee as a friend

Managers get sacked when the owners think there is someone else who can and should do better. So unless they are going to replace him with a magician he is going nowhere.
The owners haven’t invested. They’ve tried to bring in players from inferior leagues and it shows. Never replaced Cabaye with a similar player and we haven’t had anyone who can score since they prematurely ditched Glenn Murray.
Relegation is staring us in the face.

 


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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag 13 Mar 23 8.22am Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

I think that Viera is lost and has no idea what to do.
He tinkers with the team, gives very few, bar the obvious, a decent run in the team and stands on the touchline gesticulating for the team to do stuff that he must surely have trained them to do in training.
If they are not carrying out his orders then he has lost the dressing room.
No shots on target in x games is dreadful at any level and yet he fails to play a centre forward - very rarely anyway.
It must be demoralising for the defence to do a great job for near on 90 mins when no one shoots anything on target.
I know it was Man City but if you don't press teams and show them too much respect then you will never win.
The Managers job is too get the best out of his players and make them work to a system - we don't have one - and make them better.
I believe that he is failing in nearly every department and that he should go.
Let Dougie take over for the rest of the season and start again without Wilf next season - hopefully in the Prem - because I do not think we will stay up if PV stays with us!

 

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View palace chick's Profile palace chick Flag South Croydon 13 Mar 23 8.53am Send a Private Message to palace chick Add palace chick as a friend

Originally posted by viveasheagle

I see a lot of posts mentioning we are ok defensively. I think the context needs to be put in place in that if we play with most of our team in our own half we don't look like conceding many goals. Problem is if we win the ball there is no one to pass to in a forward position or we chip it up to Wilf who is easily out muscled. The problem is that our better acting players - the likes of Olise and Eze are not good when they are called on to do the defensive side of the game. Olise as well as conceding the penalty did not always track the runs of Ake. Eze has had similar issues when he has played meaning the manager is reluctant to play both in the same team. I also think our full back's are collectively 2 of the weaker ones compared to the other team's in the premier league. Again in the last few games we don't see them support the front players meaning our front players are isolated. Again part of the reason is the front players are not able to hold on to the ball meaning if we the ball is lost and our full backs are up the field we are vulnerable to a counter attack. Lakonga looks a good addition and if we play the ball out from the back through the middle he can help find our forward players.
I do question the selection of Milivojevic - 2 or 3 of his early challenges were so late he not only missed the ball but also missed the player. If he had collected the player it would have been a straight red on at least 2 occasions and this was in the first 15 minutes.

I think that’s a fair assessment and as much as we moan about Matteta and Edouard the service to them is abysmal. There will be no excuses after our next two matches if we don’t change our style of play and push forward to support our front players. This will leave us vulnerable defensively but we have to go for it or the championship beckons. And yes, Luka has gone and Reidewald should have started rather than him. Sadly PV doesn’t rate him?

 

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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 13 Mar 23 9.08am Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Starting Luka against one of the sharpest midfields in the league should have anyone questioning Vieira's judgement. I'll say again: I don't think Vieira knows his best side or his preferred formation.
The article on why he got the sack at Nice seems appropriate, because history is repeating itself.

 

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