Seems to be two arguments for keeping Vieira in: the board are more to blame and we have ‘winnable’ fixtures coming up.

On the first point I totally agree however changing the manager when things are this awful is a lot easier than changing the board. It is football at the end of the day and we are in a relegation fight. Board backing or not we need to be winning, or at least show some evidence of being capable of winning football games, and for months now we have not.

On the second I am struggling to relax with the thought that the games we have played are a complete anomaly and all of a sudden we’ll start beating everybody else therefore come the end of season everything will be fine. You can’t just write of x proportion of games and shrink our season down to the playing of the bottom 8. It’s the PL every game has its own challenges.

PV does not seem to have any solutions to the problems we are seeing. We’re not even laying a glove on teams. He isn’t showing any signs of fight or aggression whatsoever and therefore the team are not either. We’re not getting near the opposition goal, constantly rotating players, bizarre starting XIs and most importantly losing games of football. Not a ‘wartime’ manager. If we’d of lost, I don’t know, 1-4 yesterday but gave it a real go and just succumbed to city’s trillionaire bought quality I’d of seen that more positively. To bring a manager in to revolutionise the Royball existence only to play an inferior version of it seems insane.

It’s a grim grim time to be a palace fan. There’s literally nothing to cheer about. I don’t see the point in saying ‘tough run’ and ‘we need to/ should have spent £500mil on players’. True or not I want to go each weekend with some belief and for us to stay in the PL, I’m not and I can’t see where the argument for PV being the man is coming from? It almost seems dogmatic and delusional to keep holding a candle to a manager who is breaking records with our terrible performances. The players also look to have lost all belief too and that for me is most damning as our fate lies in their hands.

Our tactical approach last season, in particular in the first half of the season, was based around Gallagher pressing from the front and also his timing of runs into the penalty area which made him like an auxiliary striker on occasions.
He was the key component stretching the play and enabling our forwards to get the ball in advanced positions and often in space.
Eze, Schlupp , Olise and Ayew are not capable of performing the same function and we have neither compensated for Gallagher’s loss nor found an effective alternative system.
If we still had a Gallagher style player we would play more on the front foot and would be likely to see better contributions from the likes of Edouard and Zaha.
We can all see our lack of energy and exuberance in the final third .
Ahamada shows signs of a positive approach with a look to continually move forward in attacking midfield , but his inexperience could make it a tall order to expect him to carry the burden of being the catalyst for change.

Do you not feel that with about 10 players out of contract last year and about he same this year that investment in our squad or bringing through the youngsters if we dont have the money for new players is the key?

To loose close to 20 players out of contract over 18 Months is a huge void? I think we will stay up this year with a few scary moments, its next year I worry about, Wilf will be a huge loss