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View EddieMac's Profile EddieMac Flag 16 Mar 23 3.39pm Send a Private Message to EddieMac Add EddieMac as a friend

My main reason for wanting PV gone is that I see it as our best chance of staying up. PV has shown week after week that he doesnít know what to do with the squad he has and more importantly every single team has worked us out. We are going to struggle against the bottom teams just as much as we did against the top teams and we need something new to just get us over the line.

We have the players to win enough games but they are just completely zapped of all confidence and we are falling apart. I would actually accept a heavy defeat against Arsenal if it meant we got someone new in for the home stretch.

This season has been atrocious from start to now, and the warning signs were there before the World Cup .

People are saying we have got some favourable games coming up but we are away to Leeds, Southampton, Wolves, Home to Everton and Leicester. All teams who are fighting for their lives. Our home form is rotten and our away form worse.

Our only hope is changing the manager because we are in serious serious trouble.

 

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View Canterbury Palace's Profile Canterbury Palace Flag Whitstable 16 Mar 23 3.45pm Send a Private Message to Canterbury Palace Add Canterbury Palace as a friend

I both don't really think he's the right manager anymore but also can't see the point in changing now.

In the run up to the international break, our 10 fixtures have been against the teams in 3rd, 5th, 3rd, 7th, 8th, 6th, 11th, 2nd, 7th, 1st. That's an average of 5.3.

Our final ten games are against the teams in 16th, 19th, 20th, 15th, 13th, 17th, 4th, 18th, 9th, 14th. An average of 14.5

There's zero point changing now and it could throw the club into turmoil, backfiring spectacularly. My view is that if Vieira was going to be given the ridiculously hard run, we might as well also give him the easy one.

All it will take is a couple of goals and suddenly the confidence will come back. We even dominated Brighton for long periods last night, we just don't have a clinical striker and haven't really had one since promotion.

My view is we should have enough to survive and finish mid-table, there's some real dross in that run in. Let him keep us up and either invest in the bloody squad in the summer and get the players he thinks he needs, or sack him them and get in Bielsa or Hassenhutl.

Also, for the record, Kompany would be my absolute number one choice but he won't leave Burnley for us.

 


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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 16 Mar 23 3.49pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Canterbury Palace

I both don't really think he's the right manager anymore but also can't see the point in changing now.

In the run up to the international break, our 10 fixtures have been against the teams in 3rd, 5th, 3rd, 7th, 8th, 6th, 11th, 2nd, 7th, 1st. That's an average of 5.3.

Our final ten games are against the teams in 16th, 19th, 20th, 15th, 13th, 17th, 4th, 18th, 9th, 14th. An average of 14.5

There's zero point changing now and it could throw the club into turmoil, backfiring spectacularly. My view is that if Vieira was going to be given the ridiculously hard run, we might as well also give him the easy one.

All it will take is a couple of goals and suddenly the confidence will come back. We even dominated Brighton for long periods last night, we just don't have a clinical striker and haven't really had one since promotion.

My view is we should have enough to survive and finish mid-table, there's some real dross in that run in. Let him keep us up and either invest in the bloody squad in the summer and get the players he thinks he needs, or sack him them and get in Bielsa or Hassenhutl.

Also, for the record, Kompany would be my absolute number one choice but he won't leave Burnley for us.

I have to think good luck to anyone trying to make our lot run. Bielsa would probably resign within a week.

 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Online Flag 16 Mar 23 3.51pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Some interesting news on alternatives here. Apparently looking at Carrick (no idea how he's been doing or where he is?) or Kompany who seems to be hot property currently.
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The article is just guesswork as what it says is "Vincent Kompany and Michael Carrick of Middlesbrough among those who could be targeted

"who could be targeted" is just guesswork

 

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View EddieMac's Profile EddieMac Flag 16 Mar 23 3.52pm Send a Private Message to EddieMac Add EddieMac as a friend

Originally posted by Canterbury Palace

I both don't really think he's the right manager anymore but also can't see the point in changing now.

In the run up to the international break, our 10 fixtures have been against the teams in 3rd, 5th, 3rd, 7th, 8th, 6th, 11th, 2nd, 7th, 1st. That's an average of 5.3.

Our final ten games are against the teams in 16th, 19th, 20th, 15th, 13th, 17th, 4th, 18th, 9th, 14th. An average of 14.5

There's zero point changing now and it could throw the club into turmoil, backfiring spectacularly. My view is that if Vieira was going to be given the ridiculously hard run, we might as well also give him the easy one.

All it will take is a couple of goals and suddenly the confidence will come back. We even dominated Brighton for long periods last night, we just don't have a clinical striker and haven't really had one since promotion.

My view is we should have enough to survive and finish mid-table, there's some real dross in that run in. Let him keep us up and either invest in the bloody squad in the summer and get the players he thinks he needs, or sack him them and get in Bielsa or Hassenhutl.

Also, for the record, Kompany would be my absolute number one choice but he won't leave Burnley for us.

But we are the dross at the moment. We are quiet possibly the worst team in the league.

 

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View bangkokeagle's Profile bangkokeagle Flag bangkok 16 Mar 23 4.00pm Send a Private Message to bangkokeagle Add bangkokeagle as a friend

"Can't see the point in changing" say some but it could be the difference between going down and staying up.

Think something has to change as we're currenty on a steep downward trajectory. We need to gamble and roll the dice to give ourselves a puncher's chance of staying up.

 


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View fish mitten's Profile fish mitten Flag Chelmsford 16 Mar 23 4.12pm Send a Private Message to fish mitten Add fish mitten as a friend

As stated before, who do we get it that will rapidly increase our chances of keeping us up?

Gerrard, Lampard, Marsch or Nathan Jones who were in danger of taking their teams down.

Allardyce or Roy, who failed in their last jobs.

Carrick and Kompany will realise they are better off where they are.

Hassenhuttl seems the only one who has the necessary experience and might be a better bet. I still think whoever we replace Vieira will still inherit a squad with as many holes as a string vest.

To get a chance to make a difference a new manager would have to have been appointed 5-6 games ago. And whoever comes in will still have two poor forwards, two ageing right backs, one out of form left backs and several injury prone players.

We are not an attractive proposition at the moment. It took us long enough to appoint Vieira. Anyone who we bring in is likely to be one of the failed names that I first listed. I just hope we don't try and encourage Roy back and risk tarnishing his reputation with us.

Originally posted by bangkokeagle

"Can't see the point in changing" say some but it could be the difference between going down and staying up.

Think something has to change as we're currenty on a steep downward trajectory. We need to gamble and roll the dice to give ourselves a puncher's chance of staying up.

 

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View MrRobbo's Profile MrRobbo Flag Purley 16 Mar 23 4.17pm Send a Private Message to MrRobbo Add MrRobbo as a friend

Statistically, changing managers does not help clubs stay up.

Need to double down and back Pat and the players

 

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View EddieMac's Profile EddieMac Flag 16 Mar 23 4.32pm Send a Private Message to EddieMac Add EddieMac as a friend

He is going to have to go for broke against Arsenal because a win is his only chance of staying in the job.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 16 Mar 23 4.34pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by EddieMac

He is going to have to go for broke against Arsenal because a win is his only chance of staying in the job.


Can't imagine it frankly.

 


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View bangkokeagle's Profile bangkokeagle Flag bangkok 16 Mar 23 4.37pm Send a Private Message to bangkokeagle Add bangkokeagle as a friend

Originally posted by fish mitten

As stated before, who do we get it that will rapidly increase our chances of keeping us up?

Gerrard, Lampard, Marsch or Nathan Jones who were in danger of taking their teams down.

Allardyce or Roy, who failed in their last jobs.

Carrick and Kompany will realise they are better off where they are.

Hassenhuttl seems the only one who has the necessary experience and might be a better bet. I still think whoever we replace Vieira will still inherit a squad with as many holes as a string vest.

To get a chance to make a difference a new manager would have to have been appointed 5-6 games ago. And whoever comes in will still have two poor forwards, two ageing right backs, one out of form left backs and several injury prone players.

We are not an attractive proposition at the moment. It took us long enough to appoint Vieira. Anyone who we bring in is likely to be one of the failed names that I first listed. I just hope we don't try and encourage Roy back and risk tarnishing his reputation with us.

All true but I just think keeping Vieira means we are going down - look at all the performance stats and Crystal Palace are at the bottom of them since the turn of the year by most parameters. We run the least, we have had the fewest shots on target, fewest goals and we haven't won a game. It's all pointing in one direction.

Another appointment would be a gamble, yes, but holding onto Vieira seems like ensuring only one outcome.

 


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View EddieMac's Profile EddieMac Flag 16 Mar 23 4.40pm Send a Private Message to EddieMac Add EddieMac as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC


Can't imagine it frankly.

Either can I but he will know itís his last throw of the dice because Parish has got to be seeing who is available right now and PV will know that.

 

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