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View palace chick's Profile palace chick Flag South Croydon 24 Mar 23 9.29am Send a Private Message to palace chick Add palace chick as a friend

Originally posted by fishbone

Yes i watch the training video and I couldn’t see olise!

Isn’t Olise with the French U21’s?

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 24 Mar 23 9.46am Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by palace chick

Isn’t Olise with the French U21’s?


Yes as is Guehi with the England Team.

 

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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 24 Mar 23 10.15am Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

For a bit of balance compared to some of the recent cheery posts let’s look at the last time Roy arrived and our first 11 games which is what we now have left to play.

Hodgson lost 6 out of the first 11 matches in that 17/18 season, total return was

Played 11, won 1, drew 4, lost 6, total points 7

If you look at the team he had at his disposal then the midfield choices were Puncheon, McArthur, Cabaye, Milivojevic, Loftus-Cheek, Schlupp, Townsend.

His teams also had Zaha, Speroni, PVA, Ward, Sako, Dann, Tomkins, Fosu-Mensah

Everyone saying he had no players to work with but I look at that squad and the current one and there is not much difference.

Admittedly, that year we went on to play well and his teams looked in control a lot of the time. At the end of the 19/20 season however he lost 7 out of the last 11 matches, total return was

Played 11, won 3, drew 1, lost 7, total points 10

Then if we look at his last season with us in 20/21 total return was

Played 11, won 3, drew 1, lost 7, total points 10

My point in all this is that during Hodgson’s last appointment with us, we started badly (not a good omen) and twice finished a season with just 10 points. Will 7-10 points keep us up? I’m not so sure.

Some will bang on that we have an easier run in than the seasons referred to above but the facts are the facts and it shows we don’t end seasons well under Hodgson and he didn’t start well with us either as the team struggled to get used to his tactics.

I’m not saying he won’t do it and he might be able to turn us around but I’m not positive at all about it as I don’t see the character in the team compared to previous years.

 

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Originally posted by Eaglecoops

For a bit of balance compared to some of the recent cheery posts let’s look at the last time Roy arrived and our first 11 games which is what we now have left to play.

Hodgson lost 6 out of the first 11 matches in that 17/18 season, total return was

Played 11, won 1, drew 4, lost 6, total points 7

If you look at the team he had at his disposal then the midfield choices were Puncheon, McArthur, Cabaye, Milivojevic, Loftus-Cheek, Schlupp, Townsend.

His teams also had Zaha, Speroni, PVA, Ward, Sako, Dann, Tomkins, Fosu-Mensah

Everyone saying he had no players to work with but I look at that squad and the current one and there is not much difference.

Admittedly, that year we went on to play well and his teams looked in control a lot of the time. At the end of the 19/20 season however he lost 7 out of the last 11 matches, total return was

Played 11, won 3, drew 1, lost 7, total points 10

Then if we look at his last season with us in 20/21 total return was

Played 11, won 3, drew 1, lost 7, total points 10

My point in all this is that during Hodgson’s last appointment with us, we started badly (not a good omen) and twice finished a season with just 10 points. Will 7-10 points keep us up? I’m not so sure.

Some will bang on that we have an easier run in than the seasons referred to above but the facts are the facts and it shows we don’t end seasons well under Hodgson and he didn’t start well with us either as the team struggled to get used to his tactics.

I’m not saying he won’t do it and he might be able to turn us around but I’m not positive at all about it as I don’t see the character in the team compared to previous years.

You make some good points. I would like to point out however that when we ended seasons under Roy we had our flip flops on! We were well safe! Nothing to play for....I can't remember a relegation run in under Roy the last time I remember was under big sam when we sealed survival against hull city 4-0.

Interesting to point out tho after our extended break due to lockdowns we couldn't win another game....maybe we won 1? we also had an extended break due to the world cup just gone and we can't win a game except 1 I think!

 

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View Den1923's Profile Den1923 Flag 24 Mar 23 4.29pm Send a Private Message to Den1923 Add Den1923 as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

For a bit of balance compared to some of the recent cheery posts let’s look at the last time Roy arrived and our first 11 games which is what we now have left to play.

Hodgson lost 6 out of the first 11 matches in that 17/18 season, total return was

Played 11, won 1, drew 4, lost 6, total points 7

If you look at the team he had at his disposal then the midfield choices were Puncheon, McArthur, Cabaye, Milivojevic, Loftus-Cheek, Schlupp, Townsend.

His teams also had Zaha, Speroni, PVA, Ward, Sako, Dann, Tomkins, Fosu-Mensah

Everyone saying he had no players to work with but I look at that squad and the current one and there is not much difference.

Admittedly, that year we went on to play well and his teams looked in control a lot of the time. At the end of the 19/20 season however he lost 7 out of the last 11 matches, total return was

Played 11, won 3, drew 1, lost 7, total points 10

Then if we look at his last season with us in 20/21 total return was

Played 11, won 3, drew 1, lost 7, total points 10

My point in all this is that during Hodgson’s last appointment with us, we started badly (not a good omen) and twice finished a season with just 10 points. Will 7-10 points keep us up? I’m not so sure.

Some will bang on that we have an easier run in than the seasons referred to above but the facts are the facts and it shows we don’t end seasons well under Hodgson and he didn’t start well with us either as the team struggled to get used to his tactics.

I’m not saying he won’t do it and he might be able to turn us around but I’m not positive at all about it as I don’t see the character in the team compared to previous years.

Interesting and worrying but also some hope as his career stats say we may win 3 and draw 2 of our remaining games and lose 4 with one game that could go either way but on balance a win or draw is more likely, than a loss, so our final points total may end up around 27 + 11-14 which may give a final total 38-41 which might save us, however depends on the team and how they play. Hopefully, they will hit the ground running as they will need to because any opponent below us will be fighting for their lives just like us hopefully!

 

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View Palace Old Geezer's Profile Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 24 Mar 23 4.55pm Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

None of us want to see the return of the style of football we endured towards the end of Roy's last stint, but I am certain we will see a huge shift when Leicester visit.

We also know that, in bringing him in, SP was looking for a short term fix to see us stay in the Prem next term. It's not a long term appointment and unlikely to become one.

Unfortunately PV lost his way but I am heartened that Paddy will be a key member of the coaching staff and, as others have said, judging by the spirit on the training ground the players will respond positively.

Come on you Palace and good luck Roy!

 


Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.

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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 24 Mar 23 7.34pm Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

Football is such a strange game.
The two players supposedly not unhappy with the Vieira departure were Edouard and Eze, presumably because they didn't get the minutes they felt were warranted.
Now Roy with his reputed distrust of flair players and somewhat perceived negative approach has been tasked with undoing the harmful effect on these players of one our supposedly more positive managers in Vieira so that they can flourish again.
My head hurts in this topsy turvy world.

 

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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 24 Mar 23 7.44pm Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Originally posted by PatrickA

Football is such a strange game.
The two players supposedly not unhappy with the Vieira departure were Edouard and Eze, presumably because they didn't get the minutes they felt were warranted.
Now Roy with his reputed distrust of flair players and somewhat perceived negative approach has been tasked with undoing the harmful effect on these players of one our supposedly more positive managers in Vieira so that they can flourish again.
My head hurts in this topsy turvy world.

Hearsay? I'd say PV was justified in sidelining them, both lazy and contributing little to the overall effort. I do wonder how Roy is going to approach the first all important game - no time for shirkers or those who won't do exactly as instructed. Should be interesting.

 

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View Booted Eagle's Profile Booted Eagle Flag Bristol 24 Mar 23 9.15pm Send a Private Message to Booted Eagle Add Booted Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

For a bit of balance compared to some of the recent cheery posts let’s look at the last time Roy arrived and our first 11 games which is what we now have left to play.

Hodgson lost 6 out of the first 11 matches in that 17/18 season, total return was

Played 11, won 1, drew 4, lost 6, total points 7

If you look at the team he had at his disposal then the midfield choices were Puncheon, McArthur, Cabaye, Milivojevic, Loftus-Cheek, Schlupp, Townsend.

His teams also had Zaha, Speroni, PVA, Ward, Sako, Dann, Tomkins, Fosu-Mensah

Everyone saying he had no players to work with but I look at that squad and the current one and there is not much difference.

Admittedly, that year we went on to play well and his teams looked in control a lot of the time. At the end of the 19/20 season however he lost 7 out of the last 11 matches, total return was

Played 11, won 3, drew 1, lost 7, total points 10

Then if we look at his last season with us in 20/21 total return was

Played 11, won 3, drew 1, lost 7, total points 10

My point in all this is that during Hodgson’s last appointment with us, we started badly (not a good omen) and twice finished a season with just 10 points. Will 7-10 points keep us up? I’m not so sure.

Some will bang on that we have an easier run in than the seasons referred to above but the facts are the facts and it shows we don’t end seasons well under Hodgson and he didn’t start well with us either as the team struggled to get used to his tactics.

I’m not saying he won’t do it and he might be able to turn us around but I’m not positive at all about it as I don’t see the character in the team compared to previous years.

His stats were won 2 (Chelsea and Stoke), drew 4 and lost 5 giving 10 points for his first season. The next 4 games we won 2 and drew 2.

 


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View Dubai Eagle's Profile Dubai Eagle Flag 25 Mar 23 6.49am Send a Private Message to Dubai Eagle Add Dubai Eagle as a friend

Also it could be argued that this time of joining us -
he has only recently had 4 years with us so he knows the place virtually inside out with a few of the new player exceptions, so he wont need to have that steep learning curve that new managers often have to go through -
He has been appointed for the remaining 11 games -probably one single KPI (Dont get relegated) so every game for him & the club should be treated like a cup final, he will have a clear & concise brief, no other long term thoughts to get in the way, he only has to get hold of the team & drag them over the line -
At the end of the season his role is done -
At 76? ish no matter how grateful we are for what he does or doesn't do in those remaining matches its highly unlikely that he is going to be offered or accept another full season at CPFC -

Originally posted by Booted Eagle

His stats were won 2 (Chelsea and Stoke), drew 4 and lost 5 giving 10 points for his first season. The next 4 games we won 2 and drew 2.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 25 Mar 23 7.14am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

I was anti this but now I’ve thought about it I think Roy might keep us up. I think PV would have taken us down. Most players know him and I’m sure respect him. 50 years in the game must count for something tactically and the fear factor could be taken from the players now, knowing that it’s his head on the block.

 

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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag 25 Mar 23 8.03am Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

Originally posted by sydtheeagle

If I'm honest, I'm just bored with the whole Wilf saga right now. One of, if not the greatest player to ever wear Palace shirt, his legend status is entirely secure but he's run his contract down (as is his right) and the protracted manner of his impending departure has done us no favours. Best the speculation ends and, with luck, Wilf knuckles down and cements his status by leaving on a high note. I'd have no issues if he removed the distraction by announcing immediately "these are my eleven games at Palace and I'm going to go out with a bang." It's time the club and the player both moved on.

Wilf has neither said or done anything detrimental.
All conjecture and hype is by the media and us.
He is behaving impeccably in my opinion.

Edited by The Dolphin (25 Mar 2023 8.03am)

 

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