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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag London 24 Aug 23 6.00pm Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Originally posted by Mattconrov

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I haven't even followed the trial. But I found this article interesting.

This isn't my opinion so don't shoot the messenger

I too have only followed the official mainstream press and tv mantra on this.

The paragraph that i have copied below taken from your attached article is indeed very alarming if accurate. It certainly is different to the mainstream version of 7 deaths and six life changing injuries.


Of critical import to the guilty verdict was a chart showing which nurses were on duty at the time of baby collapses and deaths. It looks damning: in every case, Letby was there. But this was horridly misleading: other casualties occurred when Letby was off duty, but these were not considered in court. Data from a freedom of information request to the hospital showed that 31 infants died in the 12-month period of Letby’s adjudged crimes, yet 23 of these were excluded from the trial (of the eight deaths for which Letby was believed culpable, one case was dropped). In other words, Letby was implicated by circular logic: deaths happened when she was on the unit, so she must have caused them.

If this article version is correct then this country has got a far greater problem to deal with than just the NHS incompetence.

Maybe there will be more to follow. If this article is correct, then surely the whole thing will be getting further attention. An appeal?

Alarming to say the least.

Edited by dreamwaverider (24 Aug 2023 6.02pm)

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 24 Aug 23 7.24pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

I too have only followed the official mainstream press and tv mantra on this.

The paragraph that i have copied below taken from your attached article is indeed very alarming if accurate. It certainly is different to the mainstream version of 7 deaths and six life changing injuries.


Of critical import to the guilty verdict was a chart showing which nurses were on duty at the time of baby collapses and deaths. It looks damning: in every case, Letby was there. But this was horridly misleading: other casualties occurred when Letby was off duty, but these were not considered in court. Data from a freedom of information request to the hospital showed that 31 infants died in the 12-month period of Letby’s adjudged crimes, yet 23 of these were excluded from the trial (of the eight deaths for which Letby was believed culpable, one case was dropped). In other words, Letby was implicated by circular logic: deaths happened when she was on the unit, so she must have caused them.

If this article version is correct then this country has got a far greater problem to deal with than just the NHS incompetence.

Maybe there will be more to follow. If this article is correct, then surely the whole thing will be getting further attention. An appeal?

Alarming to say the least.

Edited by dreamwaverider (24 Aug 2023 6.02pm)

I haven’t posted much on this apart from the beginning when it took a year to find her guilty. That in and of itself was telling enough. She may be guilty as charged or just a scapegoat to take the heat off of others failings or just natural deaths of babies. Not considered are the 1000s surviving who 40 years ago wouldn’t have.
This is like the witch hunters. Burn them, if it gets better your a witch, if it doesn’t your a witch !

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 24 Aug 23 9.11pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

I don't think evil, she is mentally ill, there is something dark in her mind that makes her do this, usually there is something in the past but we don't know so far.

The whole life tariff is pure revenge and only shows the state to be as inhuman as they accuse her of being.

She should be in a secure hospital where she can be assessed and we can find out what possessed her.

I don't think there has ever been a case quite like this, imo there is adverse pressure to find guilt in view of the length and cost.

I am conflicted about the whole thing.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 24 Aug 23 9.15pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

I don't think evil, she is mentally ill, there is something dark in her mind that makes her do this, usually there is something in the past but we don't know so far.

The whole life tariff is pure revenge and only shows the state to be as inhuman as they accuse her of being.

She should be in a secure hospital where she can be assessed and we can find out what possessed her.

I don't think there has ever been a case quite like this, imo there is adverse pressure to find guilt in view of the length and cost.

I am conflicted about the whole thing.

It doesn’t appear you’re very conflicted with your post !

 

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View beak's Profile beak Flag croydon 30 Aug 23 3.46pm Send a Private Message to beak Add beak as a friend

[Link] This actor is the one to play Letby in the docu-drama,she is the spitting image.She is starring in the Tower on ITV.

 

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View georgenorman's Profile georgenorman Flag 30 Aug 23 4.01pm Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

I don't think evil, she is mentally ill, there is something dark in her mind that makes her do this, usually there is something in the past but we don't know so far.

The whole life tariff is pure revenge and only shows the state to be as inhuman as they accuse her of being.

She should be in a secure hospital where she can be assessed and we can find out what possessed her.

I don't think there has ever been a case quite like this, imo there is adverse pressure to find guilt in view of the length and cost.

I am conflicted about the whole thing.

What would you do - have her around to babysit?

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 30 Aug 23 5.16pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

yer man 'history debunked' says there is something very fishy about this legal case. Strange gaps in the information, and all that.

 


Eze Peasy at Anfield....

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View beak's Profile beak Flag croydon 30 Aug 23 6.15pm Send a Private Message to beak Add beak as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

yer man 'history debunked' says there is something very fishy about this legal case. Strange gaps in the information, and all that.

I agree the court case went on for far too long and the evidence was scant.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 30 Aug 23 6.44pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by beak

I agree the court case went on for far too long and the evidence was scant.

Alongside more baby deaths in the month after she ‘left’ apparently. Strange !

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 07 Sep 23 6.18pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

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Makes you wonder !

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 09 Sep 23 9.14am Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

are they already attempting to put this story into the media 'memory hole' ?

i reckon the true details will never out.

 


Eze Peasy at Anfield....

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 15 Sep 23 5.10pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Lucy Letby to appeal against baby murder convictions [Link]

Appealing all convictions. Don’t suppose my personal commentary is needed or any source of mystery .

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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