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View elgineagle's Profile elgineagle Flag Malice 22 Aug 23 4.55pm Send a Private Message to elgineagle Add elgineagle as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

A very juvenile and potentially quite offensive comment.

I quite literally 'laughed out loud' more than anything as I completely understood the point being made.

Edit: I giggled for a short period even after posting.

Edited by Nicholas91 (22 Aug 2023 12.36pm)

apologies for any offence inadvertently caused.

Well I'm glad you got my sense of humour anyway. It's so risky saying anything these days without running it past some sort of vetting procedure first. I know this more than anyone coming from the BBS. I think it's more his haircut than his head itself anyway isn't it. Anyway it's a no from me, even when we have zero goal threat from open play. Although watching Edouards headed attempt last time maybe having a huge forehead is an advantage.

 

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View tonymikejoe's Profile tonymikejoe Flag UK 24 Aug 23 11.13am Send a Private Message to tonymikejoe Add tonymikejoe as a friend

Apparently Che Adams is now 'considering his various options!'
Unbelievable.
How can such a bang average non-scoring centre forward be in such demand?
Not fit to wash Glenn Murray's jockstrap.

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 24 Aug 23 12.32pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by elgineagle

apologies for any offence inadvertently caused.

Well I'm glad you got my sense of humour anyway. It's so risky saying anything these days without running it past some sort of vetting procedure first. I know this more than anyone coming from the BBS. I think it's more his haircut than his head itself anyway isn't it. Anyway it's a no from me, even when we have zero goal threat from open play. Although watching Edouards headed attempt last time maybe having a huge forehead is an advantage.

Absolutely, there's too many people in the world who either cannot think for themselves and therefore follow instruction to be offended or who see it as a pathway to a self importance/identity that they have failed to achieve elsewhere! This renders the sentiment behind anything as obsolete however I took that to be a harmless, humorous, almost self critical observation which I shared and therefore found very amusing.

I understand why people say 'no' to Adams as the first thing that comes to mind with any striker is 'goals' and his record is less than impressive. I would argue however, having finally boarded the 'he's lazy' train for views on Edouard after Arsenal, that Adams' work-rate alone would be refreshing to see. The thought of him and Ayew both putting in shifts further up the pitch may actually be of huge benefit.

It's therefore neither an endorsement or rejection from me however I think there's more food to the thought beyond 'will he get 20+ goals a season' which he won't, but neither will anyone else in our price bracket. At a cheaper price and in lieu of the next Haaland, I'm not too adverse in any instance.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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View elgineagle's Profile elgineagle Flag Malice 25 Aug 23 2.35pm Send a Private Message to elgineagle Add elgineagle as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

Absolutely, there's too many people in the world who either cannot think for themselves and therefore follow instruction to be offended or who see it as a pathway to a self importance/identity that they have failed to achieve elsewhere! This renders the sentiment behind anything as obsolete however I took that to be a harmless, humorous, almost self critical observation which I shared and therefore found very amusing.

I understand why people say 'no' to Adams as the first thing that comes to mind with any striker is 'goals' and his record is less than impressive. I would argue however, having finally boarded the 'he's lazy' train for views on Edouard after Arsenal, that Adams' work-rate alone would be refreshing to see. The thought of him and Ayew both putting in shifts further up the pitch may actually be of huge benefit.

It's therefore neither an endorsement or rejection from me however I think there's more food to the thought beyond 'will he get 20+ goals a season' which he won't, but neither will anyone else in our price bracket. At a cheaper price and in lieu of the next Haaland, I'm not too adverse in any instance.

Yes I agree about his workrate, it would be refreshing to watch even if he isn't likely to score very many. Personally I would like to see us try to develop Plange, he was banging in the goals for Derby in the Championship but his career has unsusprisingly stalled/gone backwards since we signed him. Surely he is worth having as a bench option? I understand that every single club is looking for a 30 goal a season striker though. It's telling that our best players have been developed through the academy. A lot of the expensive signings like Sakho and Benteke have largely just cost millions with little return.

 

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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 25 Aug 23 2.44pm Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by elgineagle

Yes I agree about his workrate, it would be refreshing to watch even if he isn't likely to score very many. Personally I would like to see us try to develop Plange, he was banging in the goals for Derby in the Championship but his career has unsusprisingly stalled/gone backwards since we signed him. Surely he is worth having as a bench option? I understand that every single club is looking for a 30 goal a season striker though. It's telling that our best players have been developed through the academy. A lot of the expensive signings like Sakho and Benteke have largely just cost millions with little return.

Plange is not having a great time at Carlisle. No goals, no assists and described as having no real strengths and numerous weaknesses. Obviously some other critic’s opinion however it doesn’t sound great.

Did he just have 1 decent season at Derby and that’s it? Certainly wouldn’t be racing to bring him back hoping he’s the next Vardy.

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 25 Aug 23 4.05pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by elgineagle

Yes I agree about his workrate, it would be refreshing to watch even if he isn't likely to score very many. Personally I would like to see us try to develop Plange, he was banging in the goals for Derby in the Championship but his career has unsusprisingly stalled/gone backwards since we signed him. Surely he is worth having as a bench option? I understand that every single club is looking for a 30 goal a season striker though. It's telling that our best players have been developed through the academy. A lot of the expensive signings like Sakho and Benteke have largely just cost millions with little return.


Sorry but 4 goals in 26 matches doesn't equate to "banging them in in the Championship". Furthermore in the 22 games he's played in League 1 last season and this, his return is zero goals and zero assists. He is nowhere near being 1st team bench material.

 

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View cROYdonrogers's Profile cROYdonrogers Flag Leamington Spa 25 Aug 23 4.11pm Send a Private Message to cROYdonrogers Add cROYdonrogers as a friend

I think Plange got his chance after the Derby fire sale and did quite well. It was during the Rooney era so maybe some decent mentoring. Did I just credit Wayne Rooney.

 

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View elgineagle's Profile elgineagle Flag Malice 27 Aug 23 5.01pm Send a Private Message to elgineagle Add elgineagle as a friend

Originally posted by doombear


Sorry but 4 goals in 26 matches doesn't equate to "banging them in in the Championship". Furthermore in the 22 games he's played in League 1 last season and this, his return is zero goals and zero assists. He is nowhere near being 1st team bench material.

Is that all it was? I thought it was better than that. Derby fans were sad to see him go and clearly we signed him for a reason.

However this is in no way about Che Adams.

 

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View eritheagle's Profile eritheagle Flag Erith 27 Aug 23 5.12pm Send a Private Message to eritheagle Add eritheagle as a friend

Originally posted by cROYdonrogers

I think Plange got his chance after the Derby fire sale and did quite well. It was during the Rooney era so maybe some decent mentoring. Did I just credit Wayne Rooney.

And Ebouwai too. He looked really good for Derby.

 

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View Jacey's Profile Jacey Flag 27 Aug 23 7.22pm Send a Private Message to Jacey Add Jacey as a friend

Originally posted by elgineagle

Yes I agree about his workrate, it would be refreshing to watch even if he isn't likely to score very many. Personally I would like to see us try to develop Plange, he was banging in the goals for Derby in the Championship but his career has unsusprisingly stalled/gone backwards since we signed him. Surely he is worth having as a bench option? I understand that every single club is looking for a 30 goal a season striker though. It's telling that our best players have been developed through the academy. A lot of the expensive signings like Sakho and Benteke have largely just cost millions with little return.

Not quite correct as I seem to recall Benteke's 16 goals in his first season helped us avoid relegation.

 

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View Swindy's Profile Swindy Flag Bromley 27 Aug 23 8.12pm Send a Private Message to Swindy Add Swindy as a friend

This time last season a large part of the fanbase had seemingly got its wish with Benteke departing. This year it is Mateta's turn and in the meantime there has been very little improvement and zero investment in the centre forwards.
Now we are allegedly linked with Che Adams, very underwhelming indeed - be careful what you wish for !
Hopefully it will turn out to be Iheanacho instead who has at least scored goals on a more regular basis at the top level and has played for bigger and better clubs.

 

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View elgineagle's Profile elgineagle Flag Malice 27 Aug 23 11.21pm Send a Private Message to elgineagle Add elgineagle as a friend

Originally posted by Jacey

Not quite correct as I seem to recall Benteke's 16 goals in his first season helped us avoid relegation.

Equally Sakhos contribution whilst on loan equally helped us. I guess you could argue about every single Palace player and the contribution they made/didn't make versus how much they cost the club in transfer fee plus wages over the life of their contract.

Ultimately though I'm only really interested in discussing Che Adams head. FWIW imho the best striker bargain we ever bought in terms of goal return and footballing intelligence was Glenn Murray.

 

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