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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 04 Sep 23 9.00pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Seven years of maintaining the vote should never have happened, was wrong and should be reversed? I suspect one point has been proved.

That though was not the criteria you said applied! You said they were people who regarded leavers as stupid, who used populist rhetoric and implied racist attitudes.

I said it was just a pejorative term. I rather think my point has been proven.


Edited by Wisbech Eagle (04 Sep 2023 9.02pm)

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 04 Sep 23 9.04pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I care very much about trade deals, that work. Not ones which merely confirm whatever is already in place, or are heavily weighted in favour of the other side and agreed by us merely to show we are doing something. Show me one deal which has been agreed post Brexit which is to our benefit and not one which gives access to our market by others.

There is already evidence that leaving has been harmful and no evidence to suggest that will change. Proving a negative cannot be done but logic can be applied and there is nothing positive to be found anywhere.

No one wants anything “for their own ends”! What a ridiculous insult that is. It’s only for the future of our country, our children and grandchildren that we fight to make the case to rejoin. Not to reverse Brexit or the referendum. They are history. No, this is about looking forward, not back.

Not to reverse Brexit but to rejoin the EU. That's some endorsement of the vote.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 04 Sep 23 9.08pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That though was not the criteria you said applied! You said they were people who regarded leavers as stupid, who used populist rhetoric and implied racist attitudes.

I said it was just a pejorative term. I rather think my point has been proven.


Edited by Wisbech Eagle (04 Sep 2023 9.02pm)

As you're so fond of observing not all. Some.
If remoaner is a made up term it's only perjorative in its perception.

 

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View jcreedy's Profile jcreedy Flag 04 Sep 23 9.36pm Send a Private Message to jcreedy Add jcreedy as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen


Anyone who tries to score points on economic impact up to now is either a fool or so partisan their view is tainted.


...unless you're in one of the many industries that has been harmed beyond doubt by the UK not being in the EU and having freedom of movement (which Bozo actually promised we'd keep). But the many thousands of us in that particular boat weren't listened to.

If it wasn't so tragic, and making us all poorer by the day, it'd be quite funny how the position of Brexiters is now that the impact of Brexit can't be judged so soon, or that the economic impact can't be assessed yet, or that it's not the right kind of Brexit to work, or that it's remainers' fault that we a got a Brexit which isn't working. According to the liars that pushed it, Brexit was meant to be cheaper food, cheaper bills, sunlit uplands, and pots of gold for all of us to enjoy, all whilst being lucky enough to keep the ability to live, work and trade freely with the EU. It was a scam. If a country is stupid enough to voluntarily remove itself from the world's biggest trading block, making all aspects of travel, migration and trade harder with that block, it's not going to end well.

We will be back in the EU when the subject of doing so becomes less politically hot. The number of rejoiners, regretters and young people that never got to vote back in 2016 are growing in significant numbers, and politicians delaying the inevitable, knowing the harm that it's doing to us all is negligent.


Edited by jcreedy (04 Sep 2023 9.38pm)

 


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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 04 Sep 23 9.51pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by jcreedy

...unless you're in one of the many industries that has been harmed beyond doubt by the UK not being in the EU and having freedom of movement (which Bozo actually promised we'd keep). But the many thousands of us in that particular boat weren't listened to.

If it wasn't so tragic, and making us all poorer by the day, it'd be quite funny how the position of Brexiters is now that the impact of Brexit can't be judged so soon, or that the economic impact can't be assessed yet, or that it's not the right kind of Brexit to work, or that it's remainers' fault that we a got a Brexit which isn't working. According to the liars that pushed it, Brexit was meant to be cheaper food, cheaper bills, sunlit uplands, and pots of gold for all of us to enjoy, all whilst being lucky enough to keep the ability to live, work and trade freely with the EU. It was a scam. If a country is stupid enough to voluntarily remove itself from the world's biggest trading block, making all aspects of travel, migration and trade harder with that block, it's not going to end well.

We will be back in the EU when the subject of doing so becomes less politically hot. The number of rejoiners, regretters and young people that never got to vote back in 2016 are growing in significant numbers, and politicians delaying the inevitable, knowing the harm that it's doing to us all is negligent.


Edited by jcreedy (04 Sep 2023 9.38pm)


It's not entirely our decision though. The process of rejoining, if allowed, would take many years and politicians don't tend to favour such long term policies.


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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 04 Sep 23 11.06pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Imagine a bloke using the term ‘remoaner’ in 2023 accusing others of being ‘so partisan their view is tainted.’

 

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 05 Sep 23 3.23am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by jcreedy

...unless you're in one of the many industries that has been harmed beyond doubt by the UK not being in the EU and having freedom of movement (which Bozo actually promised we'd keep). But the many thousands of us in that particular boat weren't listened to.

If it wasn't so tragic, and making us all poorer by the day, it'd be quite funny how the position of Brexiters is now that the impact of Brexit can't be judged so soon, or that the economic impact can't be assessed yet, or that it's not the right kind of Brexit to work, or that it's remainers' fault that we a got a Brexit which isn't working. According to the liars that pushed it, Brexit was meant to be cheaper food, cheaper bills, sunlit uplands, and pots of gold for all of us to enjoy, all whilst being lucky enough to keep the ability to live, work and trade freely with the EU. It was a scam. If a country is stupid enough to voluntarily remove itself from the world's biggest trading block, making all aspects of travel, migration and trade harder with that block, it's not going to end well.

We will be back in the EU when the subject of doing so becomes less politically hot. The number of rejoiners, regretters and young people that never got to vote back in 2016 are growing in significant numbers, and politicians delaying the inevitable, knowing the harm that it's doing to us all is negligent.


Edited by jcreedy (04 Sep 2023 9.38pm)

All opinions welcome, can you support any with facts?

Let's start with " all of us poorer by the day ".

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 05 Sep 23 3.23am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Imagine a bloke using the term ‘remoaner’ in 2023 accusing others of being ‘so partisan their view is tainted.’

Don't let conflation impact your post, carry on

Remoaner is no more or less derogatory than Brexiteer.

Leaver is the antonym of remainer, which is a different word to remoaner.

Edited by HKOwen (05 Sep 2023 3.30am)

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 05 Sep 23 5.06am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by jcreedy

...unless you're in one of the many industries that has been harmed beyond doubt by the UK not being in the EU and having freedom of movement (which Bozo actually promised we'd keep). But the many thousands of us in that particular boat weren't listened to.

If it wasn't so tragic, and making us all poorer by the day, it'd be quite funny how the position of Brexiters is now that the impact of Brexit can't be judged so soon, or that the economic impact can't be assessed yet, or that it's not the right kind of Brexit to work, or that it's remainers' fault that we a got a Brexit which isn't working. According to the liars that pushed it, Brexit was meant to be cheaper food, cheaper bills, sunlit uplands, and pots of gold for all of us to enjoy, all whilst being lucky enough to keep the ability to live, work and trade freely with the EU. It was a scam. If a country is stupid enough to voluntarily remove itself from the world's biggest trading block, making all aspects of travel, migration and trade harder with that block, it's not going to end well.

We will be back in the EU when the subject of doing so becomes less politically hot. The number of rejoiners, regretters and young people that never got to vote back in 2016 are growing in significant numbers, and politicians delaying the inevitable, knowing the harm that it's doing to us all is negligent.


Edited by jcreedy (04 Sep 2023 9.38pm)

Young people voting could be used after every election and ‘may’ have swung the vote either way. There is always a legal age to vote every time. Why should this be different.

 

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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 05 Sep 23 6.59am Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Whats Brexit

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 05 Sep 23 8.12am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

As you're so fond of observing not all. Some.
If remoaner is a made up term it's only perjorative in its perception.

Of course. By those who use it.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 05 Sep 23 8.19am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Not to reverse Brexit but to rejoin the EU. That's some endorsement of the vote.

It isn’t intended to be.

That vote is done. I didn’t endorse it then but it is now of no importance. We are where we are. The question is now where we need to be.

 

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