the USA has the right idea. Hence it is wealthy. Productive people prosper, and those who are unproductive are less of a burden to you.

in Europe we have extended families of uncles, cousins, grand-parents...across 3 , 4, or even 5 generations who all have never had an official job, who all do not work. Who all scrounge off the State. And who frequently claim benefits while working in the black-economy. Some Northern towns, in England, contain little else. People who also hold very little allegiance to the State that feeds them.

Show me a good country with a generous Welfare State ? cos it doesnt exist.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (11 Sep 2023 4.06pm)

inár n-aonar i Anerley,

I think he might be advocating a welfare state that is more efficient and financially responsible and helps those that actually need and are deserving of help.

No welfare state must mean a country out of control, pakistan has no N.H.S. No free schooling and most money goes on the police and army.Imran Khan is arrested and jailed released twice a month.

Still, it's off the point.

Did you watch the link.

It's a myth-buster, don't you think?

imagine a whole society of the link below ? the fall of Rome would happen very quickly......Socialism

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inár n-aonar i Anerley,

I'll ask again, Crystallo.

Did you watch the link (in full) and do you think it's a myth-buster - disproving 'that' oft-trotted out saying?