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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 22 May 24 6.51pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Like choosing between vomit and diarrhoea.

Except both are caused by the same virus. Which is the point.

 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 22 May 24 7.11pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Things later this year, and early next, are obviously not going to get better, hence the dash.

He got a drenching, wonder if there is something extremely nasty in the pipeline.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 22 May 24 7.19pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Things later this year, and early next, are obviously not going to get better, hence the dash.

He got a drenching, wonder if there is something extremely nasty in the pipeline.

Yes. A Labour government.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 22 May 24 7.26pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Well it will give labour 6 months to cancel Christmas
Those darned Christian celebrations

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 22 May 24 9.42pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Probably the economy.

'The polls show no sign of narrowing and insiders believe an IMF warning of a 30bn hole in the finances was weighing heavy'.

 

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 22 May 24 11.41pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Two cheeks of the same bottom, George Galloway has this exactly right.

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 23 May 24 6.48am Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Plenty of chatter from Tory sources that this July election was called due to an imminent leadership challenge being triggered. If so, then even more proof that Sunaks role has been to pave the way for Starmer to win no matter what. A new Tory leader might not have been able to save the day come and October election but might have prevented a Labour landslide. We are all being played

 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 23 May 24 7.16am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

Plenty of chatter from Tory sources that this July election was called due to an imminent leadership challenge being triggered. If so, then even more proof that Sunaks role has been to pave the way for Starmer to win no matter what. A new Tory leader might not have been able to save the day come and October election but might have prevented a Labour landslide. We are all being played

TIC but Maybe boris was in the running and Sunak was having none of it. boris would be the only one who MAY have prevented that landslide.
Total conspiracy but nothing is off the table in this what if and but moment.

 

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View Ouzo Dan's Profile Ouzo Dan Flag Behind you 23 May 24 8.56am Send a Private Message to Ouzo Dan Add Ouzo Dan as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Things later this year, and early next, are obviously not going to get better, hence the dash.

He got a drenching, wonder if there is something extremely nasty in the pipeline.

NATO/British troops fighting in Ukraine, H5N1, Climate lockdowns & a catastrophic economic collapse.

I cant remember where I read/saw it but Sunak doesnt want to be a war time PM so is getting out whilst he can.
Edit: Andrew Bridgen interview

Edited by Ouzo Dan (23 May 2024 8.02pm)

 


The mountains are calling & I must go.

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 23 May 24 9.06am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Callaghan delayed the GE until the last moment and lost. It always smacked of desperation and clinging onto power.

I think Sunak will lose regardless of when the GE was called however better to lose doing something than to lose by doing nothing.


 


One more point

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 23 May 24 9.41am Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

TIC but Maybe boris was in the running and Sunak was having none of it. boris would be the only one who MAY have prevented that landslide.
Total conspiracy but nothing is off the table in this what if and but moment.

I know what you mean by Boris, but he is soiled goods after Partygate.

I would have thought they should wait until the 18th as England would still be nursing a happy hangover after winning the Euros with an Eze hattrick!

Who knows precisely why 4th July. Everyone is guessing. The only certainty for me is that Sunak will neither be PM nor party leader by the autumn.

 

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 23 May 24 12.00pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

I expect a Labour government, no surprise there.

The Conservatives need to retain enough seats to form an opposition that can challenge.

Lib dems who cares.

I hope the Galloway backed candidates do damage to Labour for taking them for granted for years. I will be delighted if Rayner can be unseated.

Otherwise, the country is pretty much fooked now.

Whether Labour or Conservatives in charge won't make much difference next term anyway.

I suspect many in the 25-45 age group will emigrate if they have the chance, further depleting services and skills.

If this sounds hopeless it's because I think it generally is hopeless, slow decline and a quasi return to Europe.

Brexit never had a chance to be a success

The country will further polarise between urban and countryside.

Mass migration of low and non skilled means we are taking net takers from the system who will not generate the tax required to fund themselves

Edited by HKOwen (23 May 2024 12.01pm)

Edited by HKOwen (23 May 2024 12.02pm)

 


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