Son ran at Sam in goal to shut him down every time he had the ball. Edouard and Mateta both clueless.

It was embarrassing. He kept saying “I don’t know how to answer that question. It’s not specific enough” . Just waffle like you usually do ffs! He was rude to the interviewer but to be fair she kept going .

Van de Ven caught him up who was claimed to be the fastest defender in the German Bundesliga last season.

I thought we played very well first half, was a great game plan and looked perfectly architected for us to get something.

Had to endure my car passenger’s ritual verbal assault on Ward whilst driving home but this time I really struggled to defend him. I was aligned with that first goal and it really did not look as though there was anything inevitable or unavoidable about it. For someone with so many PL games under his belt he always looks nervous and as though he’s overwhelmed by playing in the PL. I wasn’t shocked he panicked and diverted the ball into the back of the net nor that their second came down that side, I said as the match started I expected them to target him as most teams do. That was our undoing and I left early when they began passing it around at the back with no real pressure despite us being two down.

Didn’t expect anything, I suppose not getting slaughtered is a bonus but c’est la vie. We’re really struggling without Ebz and Olise so I can’t see us doing much before they return.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

Wow. To say that is so unacceptable. Especially when he’s silent on the “starters” who have been terrible for ages. Really poor management.

Also, for those moaning about mateta standing off their keeper, edouard did the same and it is 100% coaching. That was the game plan and to not change it at 2-0 down was pathetic. Only time we stopped doing it was at 2-1 with 4 mins left which was bizarre. Result not unexpected but second half performance again is on Roy. He’ll keep us up as we know but we will have to endure poor performances every time to any top six team with zero fight shown and then rely on scraping some 1-0’s against the dross. Fine if objective only to stay up but pretty soul destroying to watch.

Unacceptable comment on the subs who I thought did okay.
Getting bored with Roy ball again and to think we likely have Gareth ball to come.
I love Palace but am genuinely not sure how much more dross I can stomach.
I would rather lose giving it a go to be honest and his treatment of Richards is unfathomable.
A lot 20 something who is fitter,faster, stronger and so on than Ward cannot get on the pitch?
Piss poor management and maybe time to move on after tonight.
This is not a pant wetting rant - to those that will say it is.
I want to be entertained as well as support us and see us strive to get better.
We are going backwards