Burnley are newly promoted in the relegation zone who played the better football and were unlucky.

We were uninspiring and the win took us from dreary mid table to dreary mid table.

They focused on where the drama was. I have no issue.

That said had we been spurs the focus would have been how ruthless they are and still win even when "ugly " etc.

Sorry old chap, but I have to disagree with you. Ward has been very strong for us this season so far. OK, he's a tad off the pace now and he scored an unfortunate OG last week, but he's saved far more with decent positioning and tackles. A stalwart for the club.

I'm wondering if you and Lanzo go to the matches or just watch the 3 minute highlights on YouTube? Those highlights made us look decent, restricting them to a few half chances and we were clinical on the break.
What that doesn't show is how us fans endured us camped in our box for around 70 minutes, hardly got into the their half and when we did we couldn't get three passes together.
Talk of league position also not relevant. We might flit between 8th and 14th, breaking top 7 for Europe is just too tall an order (would love to br proved wrong on that).
No one is moaning, more a comment on how given we've been 10 seasons in the prem it would be nice not let us see promoted teams dominate us all game. Before any starts going on about Charlton, Curbishley and Europe etc I'm not asking for that, just to play more in their half and have some attacking impetus.
Surely now that's also got to be the end for Ward. They got down his side every time. Wondering if he was only made captain because we were guaranteed that Guehi and Andersen were going to stay in the summer. Problem is now Roy feels compelled to play him. How can he after yesterday's performance? Wingers just have him on toast now.

Edited by adelaar (05 Nov 2023 9.04am)

What a load of moaning whingers we have as so called fans, it was an excellent performance, defence solid as a rock, great battling performance, two great goals, Andersen and Ayew fantastic, Ayew was brilliant for the first goal, yes, we need a RB and a CF, but with Ayew, Eze and Olise back fully fit soon, i think the 10th place we are in will improve dramaticly, yes,10th, FFS you would think we were bottom three by some of the comments.

i disagree. whilst the 3 points were very welcome we were shocking from the first minute and had no idea how to attack. We time wasted from kick off and once we scored - great persistence from Ayew, but shocking defending - with our only chance, we just sat back and tried to run the clock down.

IMHO you need to be at games to see how things pan out - TV shows a limited view of the pitch. The top 4 , with the exception of the occasional Ayew piece of magic, is so limited. JS other than the goal was clueless and Hughes is so slow he offered nothing.

Yes we have injuries but very team has injuries. All our players are millionaires with much top flight experience.

I don't think it is unreasonable to expect them to pass the ball, move into space and maybe beat their opponent occasionally.

Our away set away is so one dimensional. If a team score early e.g. Newcastle, there is no plan B.

You are right we appear limited because without Eze,and Olise, that’s what we are, very limited . Any moan has to be to the club and its owners. Only having a great organiser in place and a supper work ethic amongst those limited players is the reason we have come through the first eleven games with 15 points . You say if we go behind no plan B maybe but we have kept 5 clean sheets , and conceded just 13 goals , The only games we have lost all top six, and only Newcastle hammered us, we are not alone in that experience.
Every club has injuries, but every club has filled out squads to cope with that ,not ours, that’s clear ,or Olise, and Eze wouldn’t the only key to a style beyond what we see.