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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You pay it on your own do you? Or do taxes arrive out of thin air?

I know we run a deficit so not all spending is taxation based. The point is that this is a government responsibility, not an individual one.

It's not.

 

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View NJ CLOCKTOWER's Profile NJ CLOCKTOWER Flag Tarragona 27 Mar 24 8.35am Send a Private Message to NJ CLOCKTOWER Add NJ CLOCKTOWER as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I understand that you find the Daily Mail's reporting and the responses to it to be predictable and filled with complaints about wasteful spending. However, it's essential to acknowledge that neither the newspaper nor anyone here truly knows the full rationale behind the project in question. It could have multiple objectives and serve various purposes that go beyond what is apparent. It's important not to jump to conclusions based on the analysis presented by the Mail, as their perspective may be biased. Moreover, decisions about funding research projects are made through a rigorous and peer-reviewed process by independent experts in the field. Therefore, it may be more reasonable to rely on these expert opinions rather than solely relying on the newspaper's analysis.

Typical Daily Mail report and predictable responses here to it.

You all do love to have a moan about something the Mail reports as a “woke” waste of money!

Neither the Mail nor anybody here knows the true rationale which lies behind this project. It could easily be multi-faceted and intended to meet several objectives. People tend not to throw money at worthless projects so making assumptions on any analysis presented by the Mail is many times more questionable than a peer reviewed decision made by a University.

A spokesman for UKRI said:

'UKRI invests in a diverse research and innovation portfolio. Decisions to fund the research projects we support are made via a rigorous peer review process by relevant independent experts from across academia and business.'

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 27 Mar 24 8.37am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

Does anyone speak Woke on here - so that they can translate?

Nobody does. It’s a pejorative term used by conservatives to try to diminish perfectly reasonable aspirations. Try reading and watching these:-

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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Not fluently I'm afraid but this is from their website:

“Given that educational institutions throughout the world are actively engaged in decolonising their curricula, Stevenson’s work and legacy present a particularly valuable focus of inquiry. Stevenson became actively involved in supporting Samoan and Hawaiian indigenous sovereignty movements at a crucial period just before these islands were annexed by the US and Germany.”

However, it said that while the writer treated South Seas locals “with considerable agency and dignity” they sadly include “many of the colonial stereotypes typical of fin-de-siecle western literature.”

That’s probably not going to be awarded a “Crystal Mark” for language clarity!

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Nobody does. It’s a pejorative term used by conservatives to try to diminish perfectly reasonable aspirations. Try reading and watching these:-

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No it's not.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 27 Mar 24 8.57am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Just for the record I have not said it isn’t a ridiculous waste of money. What I have said is no one, other than those involved and the funder, has the information to determine that. Those, like the Mail, who write deliberately provocative articles designed to enrage their readership are not doing anyone a service. They are pursuing a political agenda.

With so many genuinely concerning things happening in the world it’s reasonable to ask why any “newspaper” would choose to run this as a story.

Who ever approves "research" need to ask a simple question. What will be done with this report? Who will use it.

Every week it seems there is an article about a report that has been commissioned by the government (any party) and that the person who did the research is complaining that the results have either been partially or fully ignored.

So if research commissioned by the establishment is ignored what chance that research that isn't will be used.

 


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I am delighted to learn that for some Reform is not far right enough.

Reform are likely to make some impact at the next GE but are perceived by most as being the furthest right of anything we have seen in my lifetime. The appeal being populist rhetoric rather than realism.

There can only be a tiny handful who think they aren’t right enough, so little chance of their extreme views taking hold.

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 27 Mar 24 9.08am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

It's the socially liberal conservatives that have betrayed actual conservativism by overseeing all these weirdos into these positions...talking about but doing nothing over what was happening in our universities....Indeed encouraging it.

It's not an accident that the leaders of these institutions are woke...DEI isn't an accident it's government policy. .The conservatives did nothing at all about it. Let it not be forgotten that Amber Rudd both put Dick in charge at the Met and publicly celebrated the appointment.

Just like it was the conservatives who wrote manufesto after manifesto committing itself to lowering immigration only to actually enforce policies that deliberat4ely increased it.

I think the truth is hitting most Tory voters now that actually the Tories are far more concerned with both neo and social liberalism than anything else and have been falsely trading under the conservative name for decades now.

Even Reform aren't that conservative and....and as has been shown have deselected candidates if they spoke politically correct views or Hope Not Hate dislike them.....And let it not be forgotten that the far left Hate Not Hope are given hundreds of thousands of pounds of taxpayer's money each year by the conservatives....when that organization directly oppose conservativism.

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The Reform website is a major disappointment, lots of promises but no solutions.

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I think I can say that every party will make the same claims as Reform, promises promises.

What I need to read is how they intend to achieve their goals. Until they explain that I doubt I will be voting for them.

 


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Originally posted by Badger11

Who ever approves "research" need to ask a simple question. What will be done with this report? Who will use it.

Every week it seems there is an article about a report that has been commissioned by the government (any party) and that the person who did the research is complaining that the results have either been partially or fully ignored.

So if research commissioned by the establishment is ignored what chance that research that isn't will be used.

Surely any piece of research is only part of a bigger jigsaw?

On top of that just doing the research is also training the minds of those doing it, who are often students.

When a student writes their dissertation does this enter the realms of referenced literature? Or is it intended to ensure they can carry out research logically and reach conclusions?

I don’t know anymore than anyone else in this case. How could we? Unless we are the funder, the commissioner or the peer reviewer we cannot know the whole detail.

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I am delighted to learn that for some Reform is not far right enough.

Reform are likely to make some impact at the next GE but are perceived by most as being the furthest right of anything we have seen in my lifetime. The appeal being populist rhetoric rather than realism.

There can only be a tiny handful who think they aren’t right enough, so little chance of their extreme views taking hold.

None of that is true.

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 27 Mar 24 9.21am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I am delighted to learn that for some Reform is not far right enough.

Reform are likely to make some impact at the next GE but are perceived by most as being the furthest right of anything we have seen in my lifetime. The appeal being populist rhetoric rather than realism.

There can only be a tiny handful who think they aren’t right enough, so little chance of their extreme views taking hold.

I would dare to suggest that the extreme to which we've seen politics swing to the left has left many yearning for a further right party to come in, with the view this will reverse the tide.

I can't imagine that a swing to a far right government will be anything but equally sh!te in the longer term. Being fed up with mass immigration, the dismissal and perceived replacement of our culture, mass celebration of all sexuality other than heterosexuality, the promotion of mutilation and denial of biological realities, even extended to children, the rewriting of history and the increasing suppression of free speech and thought is certainly something worth fighting for, but a far right government may just bring it's own form of these Orwellian eventualities.

The longer and more extreme the current zeitgeist continues, the more likely a backlash and swing to the other side of the spectrum is likely to arise. I for one hope this does not happen and common sense/sanity is restored for our nation. It's increasingly becoming a crime to even desire let alone strive for this.

We need strong politicians, with equally robust moral and intellectual fibre to be in power. The longer we have the current limp lot we have now, swaying whichever way the wind blows their fragile beings, the more turbulent our existence will be, whether it is being blown left or right.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 27 Mar 24 9.24am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Currently I will not be voting.

I refuse to vote for neo or social liberalism as the current state of the country is the result of it.

 


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