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Seth - I agree entirely.

But, for those who do have faith, then I believe that they should not knock it. Apart from those like the suicide bombers who are going against the word.

 

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Quote mattwebb at 07 Jan 2005 4:48pm

Quote Moose at 07 Jan 2005 4:34pm
Out of interest, what happened to all the sinners that died before Christ? Are they all huddled together down in hell wishing they'd been born a few hundred years' later?

What you mean like Moses and people before Christ? Well they only had the Old Testament like Jews do now.

They still believed in Christ, although they did not know His name was Jesus.

Read Isaiah and you will see that people before Jesus knew that He was coming, if they put their trust in this truth they are most certainly not in hell.

Isaiah was written hundreds of years before Christ came, but they knew he'd die on a cross, and be born in Bethlehem, the Bible tells us that Jesus's death and subsequent resurrection were outside of time.

It doesn't matter when you were born.

As far as I know there are no copies of the old testament dating before the time of Jesus. On that basis I would be reluctant to give much credence to any prophecies that appear to have been fulfilled... it would have been lax to have got it wrong!

 

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Quote Singapore Eagle at 07 Jan 2005 5:07pm

Seth - I agree entirely.

But, for those who do have faith, then I believe that they should not knock it. Apart from those like the suicide bombers who are going against the word.


Agree with that as well, apart from those who go around trying to convert others - they're just as bad as double-glazing salesmen. If religious people can keep it to themselves, then I'm more than happy for them to live with their delusions.

 


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Quote Seth at 07 Jan 2005 5:22pm

Agree with that as well, apart from those who go around trying to convert others - they're just as bad as double-glazing salesmen. If religious people can keep it to themselves, then I'm more than happy for them to live with their delusions.


Delusions/Faith - who can tell?

Anyway, I am off to bed - I'll see what has transpired in the morning!!!!

 

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Quote Seth at 07 Jan 2005 5:22pm

Quote Singapore Eagle at 07 Jan 2005 5:07pm

Seth - I agree entirely.

But, for those who do have faith, then I believe that they should not knock it. Apart from those like the suicide bombers who are going against the word.


Agree with that as well, apart from those who go around trying to convert others - they're just as bad as double-glazing salesmen. If religious people can keep it to themselves, then I'm more than happy for them to live with their delusions.


Really? I take it you're talking about the general public, rather than our friend in the White House, as well as many other state premiers whose religion affects the politics of the country and, in Bush's case, everyone elses as well.

Personally I think that religion is the bane of man, currently. It's so divisive and delusional, in my opinion.

 


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View Singapore Eagle's Profile Singapore Eagle Flag ....back in London now 07 Jan 05 5.31pm Send a Private Message to Singapore Eagle Add Singapore Eagle as a friend

Hey, you have taken it to a different vein now!

Countries vs, Religion!

 

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Quote tome at 07 Jan 2005 5:29pm

Really? I take it you're talking about the general public, rather than our friend in the White House, as well as many other state premiers whose religion affects the politics of the country and, in Bush's case, everyone elses as well.

Did you know their a plans in existence which deal with the situation which would occur if Bush was summoned to heaven? (not die)

I think religion for Bush on a personal level has been a good thing for him, because it helped him get over his alcohol addiction. But I am not sure whether his 'conversations' with God are in everyones interest.

 

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Nah, it's not countries vs religion,

It's politics vs religion,

and, morality and religion - are they extricable?

Edited by tome (07 Jan 2005 5:35pm)

 


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Quote Seth at 07 Jan 2005 5:22pm

Quote Singapore Eagle at 07 Jan 2005 5:07pm

Seth - I agree entirely.

But, for those who do have faith, then I believe that they should not knock it. Apart from those like the suicide bombers who are going against the word.


Agree with that as well, apart from those who go around trying to convert others - they're just as bad as double-glazing salesmen. If religious people can keep it to themselves, then I'm more than happy for them to live with their delusions.


Really? I take it you're talking about the general public, rather than our friend in the White House, as well as many other state premiers whose religion affects the politics of the country and, in Bush's case, everyone elses as well.

Personally I think that religion is the bane of man, currently. It's so divisive and delusional, in my opinion.


Tome - I said "religious people [who] can keep it to themselves", which would rule out Dubya and all rulers who use religion to control and oppress (see my earlier post).

 


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Quote stu7986 at 07 Jan 2005 5:34pm

Quote tome at 07 Jan 2005 5:29pm

Really? I take it you're talking about the general public, rather than our friend in the White House, as well as many other state premiers whose religion affects the politics of the country and, in Bush's case, everyone elses as well.

Did you know their a plans in existence which deal with the situation which would occur if Bush was summoned to heaven? (not die)

I think religion for Bush on a personal level has been a good thing for him, because it helped him get over his alcohol addiction. But I am not sure whether his 'conversations' with God are in everyones interest.


Blimey, stu's being critical of Dubya! Maybe there is a god after all.......

 


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Quote Singapore Eagle at 07 Jan 2005 5:31pm

Hey, you have taken it to a different vein now!

Countries vs, Religion!


Thought you were going to bed!?

 


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Quote Seth at 07 Jan 2005 5:34pm

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Quote Seth at 07 Jan 2005 5:22pm

Quote Singapore Eagle at 07 Jan 2005 5:07pm

Seth - I agree entirely.

But, for those who do have faith, then I believe that they should not knock it. Apart from those like the suicide bombers who are going against the word.


Agree with that as well, apart from those who go around trying to convert others - they're just as bad as double-glazing salesmen. If religious people can keep it to themselves, then I'm more than happy for them to live with their delusions.


Really? I take it you're talking about the general public, rather than our friend in the White House, as well as many other state premiers whose religion affects the politics of the country and, in Bush's case, everyone elses as well.

Personally I think that religion is the bane of man, currently. It's so divisive and delusional, in my opinion.


Tome - I said "religious people [who] can keep it to themselves", which would rule out Dubya and all rulers who use religion to control and oppress (see my earlier post).


Aye, Seth, but if someone's religious does it not affect their decision making process on every level? Regardless as to whether they keep it to themselves or not, the fact of their religious sentiments may well mean that there is always another agenda.

 


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