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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 03 Oct 16 12.51pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Jimenez

Anyway isn't this a Pink Floyd thread? I think your taking yourself a tad too seriously and over analyzing? Its Music you either like or you don't.

It wasn't me that started on about punk now was it.

Floyd are OK. The Wall is good as is Dark Side' and a few other bits but they are not a band I want to listen to all the time. It's all rather depressing a little dull. Iv'e never seen them live. Never wanted to. The musicianship is above average but they are like watching paint dry.

 

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i'm not a high art person but DSOM is akin to van gogh's starry night or something like it - it's a perfect piece of art, instantly recognized as such and the more you study it, the more perfect it gets.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 03 Oct 16 2.56pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger


In the real world it is an exercise in making money by exploiting the young's need to latch onto a trend. You can dress it up as something more significant if you like but in reality "Punk" allowed people with very limited talent to produce music, in some case independently of big record companies. A lot of so called "Punk was not Punk at all. Just artists jumping on the bandwagon of the trend to sell records, often directed by their record companies.
The late 70's was the era of trends but like most youth culture it has all been wildly exaggerated. There were never many Punks or Teds, rockers or mods for that matter. It was mostly just media hype.

Certainly true, for some. its very hard to take bands like the Sham 69 seriously as Punk along with bands like the Stranglers, Jam and Clash as well (who I quite adore) - who all seemed to kind of get thrown into that melting pot (and some may have more cynically thrown their lot in with some Punk stereotypes to shift some s**t records - Toyah Willcox etc).

I quite like the DIY philosophy of Punk, and the way that seeing the Pistols, resulted people forming much better bands. Much as I like them, the Pistols were s**t, and the best thing they ever did was steal Sid from Souxie and the Banshees.

But a result of the great 'Rock and Roll Swindle' that is the Pistols are bands like the Banshees', Buzzcocks the Damned, The Cure, Joy Division etc.

 


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View matt_himself's Profile matt_himself Flag Matataland 03 Oct 16 6.23pm Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

I have moved onto Tubular Bells.

People must have been smoking s*** loads of Moroccan sticky in the '70s to make this s*** sound good.

 


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Originally posted by matt_himself

I have moved onto Tubular Bells.

People must have been smoking s*** loads of Moroccan sticky in the '70s to make this s*** sound good.

Put Branson on the map. Viv Stanshall received no royalties. To the day he died, Stanshall thought Branson was a c*nt. I agree with him.

 


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Meddle is a brilliant floyd album,2 of my favourite songs on it,one of these days and echoes which takes up the whole b side,as you can tell a lot of my floyd is on vinyl

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 03 Oct 16 8.28pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Certainly true, for some. its very hard to take bands like the Sham 69 seriously as Punk along with bands like the Stranglers, Jam and Clash as well (who I quite adore) - who all seemed to kind of get thrown into that melting pot (and some may have more cynically thrown their lot in with some Punk stereotypes to shift some s**t records - Toyah Willcox etc).

I quite like the DIY philosophy of Punk, and the way that seeing the Pistols, resulted people forming much better bands. Much as I like them, the Pistols were s**t, and the best thing they ever did was steal Sid from Souxie and the Banshees.

But a result of the great 'Rock and Roll Swindle' that is the Pistols are bands like the Banshees', Buzzcocks the Damned, The Cure, Joy Division etc.


Well the Stranglers were my favorites in the new wave catagory back in the day but they were hardly "Punk". They were a pub band who jumped on the bandwagon like so many others.

The Banshees, Pistols and the like wore the Punk fashion but often were streets apart musically.
Personally I thought the Damned, The Buzzcocks etc were garbage. The Stranglers had attitude and some memorable songs, Elvis Costello and The Boomtown Rats actually had some ability to write, even if Geldof did a second rate Jagger impersonation. The whole scene did liven things up at the end of the seventies and offered an alternative to Disco but most of it was cobblers. There were actually some great albums released between 1976 and 1980 and very few were New Wave.
Having said that, Never Mind the Bollocks is actually very good.

 

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View Tim Gypsy Hill '64's Profile Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Flag Stoke sub normal 04 Oct 16 12.27am Send a Private Message to Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Add Tim Gypsy Hill '64 as a friend

Originally posted by bexleydave

If you are judging PF's success by chart singles you've completely missed the point; it's the 250m albums, and still selling at a million a year, that counts.

Not judging them on single sales Bex, just the accessibility of the tunes.

I was lucky enough to see Floyd live at several locations, and even went to Berlin for the "The Wall by Roger Waters & assorted Friends (misfits)" debacle.

But buying albums as a lad wasn't as easy as buying singles when the paper round only paid 58p per week. Tips extra if you were lucky.

I grew up listening to Floyd albums at my uncles house. I could afford to only buy singles. Ergo, I like both.

 


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View Tim Gypsy Hill '64's Profile Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Flag Stoke sub normal 04 Oct 16 12.43am Send a Private Message to Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Add Tim Gypsy Hill '64 as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger


Well the Stranglers were my favorites in the new wave catagory back in the day but they were hardly "Punk". They were a pub band who jumped on the bandwagon like so many others.

The Banshees, Pistols and the like wore the Punk fashion but often were streets apart musically.
Personally I thought the Damned, The Buzzcocks etc were garbage. The Stranglers had attitude and some memorable songs, Elvis Costello and The Boomtown Rats actually had some ability to write, even if Geldof did a second rate Jagger impersonation. The whole scene did liven things up at the end of the seventies and offered an alternative to Disco but most of it was cobblers. There were actually some great albums released between 1976 and 1980 and very few were New Wave.
Having said that, Never Mind the Bollocks is actually very good.

Not sure how you put the Stranglers into the New Wave category. Started as a prog rock band, and hitched a ride on the new sound bandwagon. A few songs on their first album (and a few that made it over to the second) had a resemblance to the new scene. But you only need to listen to their *anthem* song, "In The Sewer" to see that. And that was on the first one!!!

I like the Stranglers though, and especially "In The Sewer". I'm just stating....

Edited by Tim Gypsy Hill '64 (04 Oct 2016 12.45am)

 


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View matt_himself's Profile matt_himself Flag Matataland 04 Oct 16 7.26am Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Put Branson on the map. Viv Stanshall received no royalties. To the day he died, Stanshall thought Branson was a c*nt. I agree with him.


The album itself is a complete pile of pretentious w***. Playing the same track over and over, using a different instrument occasionally, with a voice saying 'introducing, man-dough-lynn' does not equate to music greatness.

How did Viv get involved in this abomination?

 


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Hoof Hearted 04 Oct 16 10.51am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger


Well the Stranglers were my favorites in the new wave catagory back in the day but they were hardly "Punk". They were a pub band who jumped on the bandwagon like so many others.

The Banshees, Pistols and the like wore the Punk fashion but often were streets apart musically.
Personally I thought the Damned, The Buzzcocks etc were garbage. The Stranglers had attitude and some memorable songs, Elvis Costello and The Boomtown Rats actually had some ability to write, even if Geldof did a second rate Jagger impersonation. The whole scene did liven things up at the end of the seventies and offered an alternative to Disco but most of it was cobblers. There were actually some great albums released between 1976 and 1980 and very few were New Wave.
Having said that, Never Mind the Bollocks is actually very good.

I agree with most of this Hrolf.

The Stranglers and Elvis Costello songs are still playable whereas lets say... Xray Spex was never really music and sounds pathetic if you play it now.

This is my favourite punk song....

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I love the driving bass and rhythmic melody.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 04 Oct 16 11.40am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

Not sure how you put the Stranglers into the New Wave category. Started as a prog rock band, and hitched a ride on the new sound bandwagon. A few songs on their first album (and a few that made it over to the second) had a resemblance to the new scene. But you only need to listen to their *anthem* song, "In The Sewer" to see that. And that was on the first one!!!

I like the Stranglers though, and especially "In The Sewer". I'm just stating....

Edited by Tim Gypsy Hill '64 (04 Oct 2016 12.45am)

I didn't. Their record company did.

 

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