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View CPFC/SCCC's Profile CPFC/SCCC Flag Sutton 17 Jun 17 11.10am Send a Private Message to CPFC/SCCC Add CPFC/SCCC as a friend

Originally posted by Chubskip

Before we even consider a dof do you not think a manager is a higher priority?

I said in op post that a manager is needed first.

 


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Dougie Freedman is blatantly the obvious choice, as long as he can keep himself from snitching us up. Being on the payroll should stop any temptations.

 


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View alaneagle1's Profile alaneagle1 Flag Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 17 Jun 17 11.33am Send a Private Message to alaneagle1 Add alaneagle1 as a friend

Originally posted by bexleydave

Yeah, that's the sort of thing I was thinking of.

Many Holers are singing the praises of the Saints.
They finished 6 points ahead of us and are on to there 5th manager in 7 years.
Football management has moved on,there will be no long term managers anymore.
Other than Arsene.
They must continually win matches or they will be sacked.
I think the average management stay is now 14 months.
Chelsea have continued to be successful with many Manager changes.

 


Palace 13th 2017/18.

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View bexleydave's Profile bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 17 Jun 17 12.43pm Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by alaneagle1

Many Holers are singing the praises of the Saints.
They finished 6 points ahead of us and are on to there 5th manager in 7 years.
Football management has moved on,there will be no long term managers anymore.
Other than Arsene.
They must continually win matches or they will be sacked.
I think the average management stay is now 14 months.
Chelsea have continued to be successful with many Manager changes.

Better let Parish know then, he's hoping for a bit of longevity. Mind you, for us, 14 months is pretty good.

 


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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 17 Jun 17 12.50pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by bexleydave

Yeah, that's the sort of thing I was thinking of.

Maybe Willo in a similar role?

 


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View CPFC/SCCC's Profile CPFC/SCCC Flag Sutton 17 Jun 17 12.54pm Send a Private Message to CPFC/SCCC Add CPFC/SCCC as a friend

Originally posted by Jimenez

Maybe Willo in a similar role?

Delete. Haven't we already got enough willo threads . Lol

 


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When he Sees the match ball, he says he having that
He scores one with left foot, he scores one with his right
And When his playing Brighton, He scores all f***ING Night!

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View bexleydave's Profile bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 17 Jun 17 12.56pm Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by Jimenez

Maybe Willo in a similar role?

Sounds perfect

 


Bexley Dave

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 17 Jun 17 1.11pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Jimenez

Maybe Willo in a similar role?

I really don't think that there is a specific pandemic role for a 'Director of football'

I think the 'Terms of reference' vary from club to club and perhaps what one does as a 'DOF' at a club is not that far removed from someone who is 'Sporting Director' at another.So a DOF role is what a club or manager deems it should be for that particular club.

I've heard some managers pose the question in terms of "What exactly is a Director of football" ?

 

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View alaneagle1's Profile alaneagle1 Flag Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 17 Jun 17 2.36pm Send a Private Message to alaneagle1 Add alaneagle1 as a friend

Originally posted by bexleydave

Better let Parish know then, he's hoping for a bit of longevity. Mind you, for us, 14 months is pretty good.

Well so is everyone, but if you start losing,you will be sacked eg Pardew,Ranieri etc.

 


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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 17 Jun 17 5.43pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by CPFC/SCCC

Exactly my thinking. Whilst moody time at the club was short. It was a successful window at the time. I also think this could help the planning of future managers or players. Just like les reed has done at Southampton.

Whilst Les Reed has done a good job at Southampton, there is no guarantee we would get the same benefit.
Remember Dennis Wise at Newcastle, he was regarded as divisive and created a wedge between manager and chairman, which in part started Newcastles problems.
We have enough problems appointing a manager, I don't think a DoF is high on the agenda.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 17 Jun 17 6.42pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

Whilst Les Reed has done a good job at Southampton, there is no guarantee we would get the same benefit.
Remember Dennis Wise at Newcastle, he was regarded as divisive and created a wedge between manager and chairman, which in part started Newcastles problems.
We have enough problems appointing a manager, I don't think a DoF is high on the agenda.

He's the same age as me !

Oversees various activities at Southampton ie Recruitment, Academy etc etc.He also keeps detailed information about all the major coaches in Europe and perhaps beyond.

Only been a manager for a handful of games (Charlton) and only won 1 of them, against Blackburn, who were managed by Mark Hughes.

 

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Originally posted by Chubskip

Before we even consider a dof do you not think a manager is a higher priority?

If you're going to do it properly then no. In theory a Director of Football is like the General Manager in American sports. Part of that job is not just signing players but also hiring managers/head coaches.

We don't have one because we've recently favoured managers who want to do everything like Pardew and Allardyce. If we were going to bring in a DOF that would need to happen before the manager was confirmed. Otherwise you're hiring a manager and then instantly complicating things by adding in someone above him.

That's how it works at Southampton I believe, Reed has a huge role in finding the new manager to ensure their system and ethos is the same.

For what it's worth, I don't think there is a definite right or wrong way to run a club. If you're going to have a DOF though you have to really want that structure, and I'm not sure it suits Parish or the managers he seems to like.

 


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