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Originally posted by chris123


Ok - let's have a virtual pint on it - seems not to be self defence, is extended - lasts a minute and quite a few blows landed with not much in return - so looks like ABH to me.

Okay.

I don't think it will affect his visa at all. I also think he'll go, and play, even if charges are looming.

The only way I don't see him going is if he's both charged for something and the case is set to be heard during the Ashes.

For me what Rooney was charged with recently was worse and he was back playing for the team a week later, and he would most likely still get picked for England next week if he hadn't retired.

 


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Originally posted by Stuk

For me what Rooney was charged with recently was worse and he was back playing for the team a week later, and he would most likely still get picked for England next week if he hadn't retired.

How can you compare the two. Rooney was caught drink driving and although there was potential for injuring someone no-one was actually injured at all whereas Ben Stokes assaulted the bloke so badly that he ended up in hospital

 

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Originally posted by Stuk

Okay.

I don't think it will affect his visa at all. I also think he'll go, and play, even if charges are looming.

The only way I don't see him going is if he's both charged for something and the case is set to be heard during the Ashes.

For me what Rooney was charged with recently was worse and he was back playing for the team a week later, and he would most likely still get picked for England next week if he hadn't retired.


Ok well ABH and DD are not really comparable - so if that's your reference point, I can see why you think he'll be on the plane - zero chance in my view.

 

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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

How can you compare the two. Rooney was caught drink driving and although there was potential for injuring someone no-one was actually injured at all whereas Ben Stokes assaulted the bloke so badly that he ended up in hospital

Well one is premeditated, pure laziness/arrogance and involves a 1.5 ton weapon.

The other was reactive and provoked.

 


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View Bexley Eagle's Profile Bexley Eagle Flag Bexley Kent 29 Sep 17 4.41pm Send a Private Message to Bexley Eagle Add Bexley Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stuk

Well one is premeditated, pure laziness/arrogance and involves a 1.5 ton weapon.

The other was reactive and provoked.

I could not agree more.

Nice to see Jake Ball reinforcing his case for inclusion today.

 

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Originally posted by Bexley Eagle

I could not agree more.

Nice to see Jake Ball reinforcing his case for inclusion today.

He had a mare. 94 off 10 including a maiden. I was shouting after the 3 sixes from Gayle to get him out of the attack, Morgan sticks with him and he went for plenty more in the next over.

Plunkett superb again. Great summer he's had.

 


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View Bexley Eagle's Profile Bexley Eagle Flag Bexley Kent 29 Sep 17 5.05pm Send a Private Message to Bexley Eagle Add Bexley Eagle as a friend

The problem Plunkett has is the selectors like people that bowl low 80's rather than 90+

 

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Originally posted by Bexley Eagle

The problem Plunkett has is the selectors like people that bowl low 80's rather than 90+

Plunkett isn't that fast, the vast majority of his bowling is 85-88. Good pace but it's the Aussies who have the 90+ crowd.

Ball can bowl at Plunkett's pace....He and Woakes will be our quickest out there.

Our real quicks like Jamie Overton and Wood are always injured.....that and that Essex guy who only plays 20/20 because of his back.

 


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Originally posted by Bexley Eagle

I could not agree more.

Nice to see Jake Ball reinforcing his case for inclusion today.

More of a four/five day bowler really...like Anderson.

Showed good pace out there.

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Plunkett isn't that fast, the vast majority of his bowling is 85-88. Good pace but it's the Aussies who have the 90+ crowd.

Ball can bowl at Plunkett's pace....He and Woakes will be our quickest out there.

Our real quicks like Jamie Overton and Wood are always injured.....that and that Essex guy who only plays 20/20 because of his back.

Plunkett is mid 80s. I wonder whether him being signed up to play in the Bangladesh 20/20 has caused him to be ruled out of a test place as he's more complete than Ball, for sure.

Tymal Mills is proper rapid. Real shame he can't play the longer formats.

 


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Originally posted by Stuk

Plunkett is mid 80s. I wonder whether him being signed up to play in the Bangladesh 20/20 has caused him to be ruled out of a test place as he's more complete than Ball, for sure.

Tymal Mills is proper rapid. Real shame he can't play the longer formats.

We haven't had a real quick playing regularly for ages.

One paced nation paying for loads of trundlers in county cricket.

 


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Jake Ball is the new Jade Dernbach. Plunkett when on song can bowl 90 mph. There is no doubt in my mind which one would bother the Aussies more.

 

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