Before the state of Israel most anti semites were on the right. After the state of Israel most anti semites are on the left.

As I have said previously I think labels are attached to people far too easily as it's just a weapon for opponents.

I'm sure there are anti semites about to varying degrees here. One look at Youtube comments will tell you that.....But I don't think criticising someone who is Jewish is anti semitic. I think Jews as a group are a positive force, but I certainly don't like the fact that their government has given up on peace and is land hoarding and expanding.

I'm a nationalist with a small 'n' so I'm not anti zionist but I'm certainly anti expansionist in the modern age outside of actual official warfare.

Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Nov 2017 1.36pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

You do it again...Stirling..."the jews"","their government"...ho hum.

Less than half the world's jews live in Israel anyway...

Do you visit E Europe or the Balkans much? Much more antisemitism on the right (and the largely right-wing Catholic and Orthodox churches remain full of it there)...and that's always been the overall case here and in France too.

The rise of greater (it was always there) anti semitism on the left here is a phenomenon from the past 40 years,Israel came into being c.70 years ago.That comes from a minority of dodgy people attaching themselves to the "anti zionist label" (bit like some on the right use more socially acceptable terms to say what would otherwise be viewed as unacceptable prejudice towards differing ethnicities and races),coupled with some simplistic thinking.To say the actions of the Israeli government haven't helped would be an understatement.

As to criticising a Jewish person,I think you again miss the point.Of course anyone can criticise anyone of any ethnicity.Its when people talk about a whole ethnicity as a collective with the same characteristics "the jewish lobby","jews in Britain",that things can move towards dodginess at times and hoary old canards crop up (however unconsciously).

Edited by legaleagle (03 Nov 2017 2.27pm)

There is no difference.

That only happens lawfully with a consensus of nations.

The damage was done as far as Israel is concerned when nations agreed to create a place that was previously only a Biblical tale and put it right next to Arabs. The migration was only meant to be limited but those nice Jewish militants decided to start a bombing campaign killing innocebt people, including British citizens and eventually got their way with a larger influx.

Claiming anti Semitism is just the modern way of avoiding criticism. That should be remembered when discussing other groups who like to hide behind claims of prejudice.

As Mr. Farage is known to be a Palace fan, he could well be a poster on here. I don't want you to get into any trouble talking about him. I hope you accept my friendly alert in the spirit it is meant - if not, please accept my groveling apology.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

Yeah, except that being ordered to retract a statement and pay a fine in court is not the same as it being untrue. It just means a judge decided that it was slander without substantive proof.