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View chris123's Profile chris123 Flag hove actually 04 Mar 18 8.35pm Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Referring to the opposition leader falsely as a communist spy and falsely claiming also that he voted against the Good Friday agreement.

Not exactly speaker material.

Did he not correct himself on the GF vote?

 

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Originally posted by steeleye20

Referring to the opposition leader falsely as a communist spy and falsely claiming also that he voted against the Good Friday agreement.

Not exactly speaker material.

Jacob Rees Mogg admits he was wrong to claim Jeremy Corbyn voted against Good Friday Agreement [Link]

 

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Originally posted by Mapletree

I suspect your father brought you up before recent changes in social expectations. Could it be that Mr Mogg is a throwback to a bygone age?

Behaviour is behaviour, what 'age' it occurred in is moot.

I don't change my toddler's nappy. Families distribute tasks how they distribute it. I wash up and cook half the week, my partner controls most child related stuff.

It is revealing to read lefties mocking Mogg over nappy changing......it shows they believe there is a 'right and wrong' to these things.

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Behaviour is behaviour, what 'age' it occurred in is moot.

I don't change my toddler's nappy. Families distribute tasks how they distribute it. I wash up and cook half the week, my partner controls most child related stuff.

It is revealing to read lefties mocking Mogg over nappy changing......it shows they believe there is a 'right and wrong' to these things.

So you would leave your toddler in a s***ty nappy and wait for your partner do it. I hope your partner doesn't leave the house for long at least JRM hands the child over to the nanny.

He also acknowledges he's not a modern man in this regard.

 


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Originally posted by Oliver

So you would leave your toddler in a s***ty nappy and wait for your partner do it. I hope your partner doesn't leave the house for long at least JRM hands the child over to the nanny.

He also acknowledges he's not a modern man in this regard.

So it's wrong to have a nanny? What about a cleaner or gardener?

 

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Originally posted by Penge Eagle

So it's wrong to have a nanny? What about a cleaner or gardener?

Having a nanny maybe a requirement if you're not going to change your offsprings nappies.

 


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Originally posted by Oliver

Having a nanny maybe a requirement if you're not going to change your offsprings nappies.

So you hate JRM because he doesn't change a nappy? Such tolerance!

 

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Originally posted by Penge Eagle

So you hate JRM because he doesn't change a nappy? Such tolerance!

Not sure he's said he 'hates' him there mate.

Must admit I find it a bit weird myself not wanting to muck in with your own offspring - part and parcel of the role innit?

 

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Originally posted by steeleye20

I am new to Mogg - don't understand the fascination.

Neither do the tories either as he has been an MP for a long time without any ministerial position.

Probably transgressed in some way.


Nor do I tbh, a bit like Boris he's more of a caricature then anything else.

To have either standing up around the world as our Leader would be embarrassing as it would be for ALL the current leaders tbh.

Where are the new dymnamic pretenders to the post on either side of the fence?

 


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Originally posted by DanH

Not sure he's said he 'hates' him there mate.

Must admit I find it a bit weird myself not wanting to muck in with your own offspring - part and parcel of the role innit?

I agree with you, I'd change nappies. However, it's a free country and how JRM raises his children is totally down to him. Surely it's better someone like 'Oliver' picks holes in JRM's political views rather than make trivial personal attacks.

 

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Originally posted by Oliver

So you would leave your toddler in a s***ty nappy and wait for your partner do it. I hope your partner doesn't leave the house for long at least JRM hands the child over to the nanny.

He also acknowledges he's not a modern man in this regard.

Nope, I didn't say I've never changed a nappy just that it isn't my family role.

As for 'modern man'.....that's subtext for 'beta male'.

 


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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 05 Mar 18 11.11am Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

The issue about JRM is not that he does not change his kid’s nappies but rather is willing to state that in public. Ditto with his Catholicism, his anti-abortion stance and his opposition to Gay marriage. His willingness to not only do so but to be absolutely non-apologetic about it is what marks him out from the rest.

This is what so many in the media commentariat seem to struggle with and have now done so for a period of so many years that you have to ask serious questions about how these people ever rose to such prominence.

The public mood, and as was witnessed once again in Italy yesterday, is to take a look at the established political order and tell it to go and f*** itself.

JRM represents a strand of that Zeitgeist, as does Jeremey Corbyn, as does Brexit and as does Trump.Even Macron in France, whilst put forward as the poster boy for the self-satisified and smug Soc.lib establishment, is completely out of step in many many ways with how a modern politician is meant to present themselves. Just the creepy dynamics of his marriage are proof of that.

And whilst I appreciate that machinations of Italian politics probably only hold an attraction for sad political geeks like me, the results are staggering.

The centre truly is beginning to sag in an alarming manner.


Edited by Matov (05 Mar 2018 11.12am)

 


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