Mistake? Might have proved a stroke of genius. Having the Supreme Court act as it has is not costing him a single vote. If anything, it is bolstering his support. This is what you Remainers fail to understand. People want this Brexit crap over and done. And anybody seen or percieved to be delaying it will draw down their ire.

When will you understand that? Are you even capable of comprehending how hacked off people are with anybody who wants to extend this all? Or do you think people are going to welcome months and months more of this? Are you expecting their gratitude? Their praise?

We can be out by the end of October. The legislation is in place, the preparations are being made. People are hearing the adverts, seeing the signs on motorways. What do you think is to be gained from delaying it happening?

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

And only so when the Supreme Court adjudged it to be. There was no law in place to start with. Merely convention. Now the Court has acted as it has, then if anybody tried it again they could be deemed to have acted illegally but as things stand? Nah.

All the public see is unelected judges, drawn from privileged backgrounds, deemed to have interfered in the Brexit process.

Smashing.

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"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

That is not the reason because you can go to prison for an unlawful act, it doesn't have to be an illegal one.

He won't go to prison because he wasn't on trial personally. It was the advice he gave the Queen that was judged as unlawful. Should he do the same again, knowing that it has now been found to be unlawful to do so, then his risk increases.

I am no lawyer but this time there doesn't appear to have been any attempt to hold him personally culpable because the Court was unable to determine for sure what his motivations were due to the lack of an affidavit, although that did not stop them deciding that the advice itself was unlawful and that all that flowed from that advice equally so.

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Judges develop the common law.

These 11 Judges, our Supreme Court, the top legal brains of our hugely respected Judiciary, unanimously decided that Parliament's right to oversee the executive had unlawfully been interfered with.

Nothing to do with Brexit. Nothing to do with political interference. Two cases were put before them and they had a duty to rule on them. And did so.

This was a triumph for democracy and the rule of law. Nothing less.

Anyone who seeks to position it otherwise is only doing so for political gain.

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The difference is that illegal means an act forbidden by a law that has been passed. Unlawful means not authorised by law because no such law has been passed.
I ask again - whose advice should he have sought if not the Attorney General?

That Johnson is playing to his leave "base", just as Trump does to his, is obvious and revving up the rhetoric plays well with them. It also stirs up anger and as those female MP's were saying this is really quite dangerous for them. Your own language has been fierce on occasions, whilst others here have been worse. Imagine if you feel that angry and are also mentally unstable what the consequences might be? It's this lack of appreciation of what this approach is doing which upsets so many and is likely to consolidate the opposition to Johnson like nothing else.

I also don't share your view that it won't cost him votes. Not all "leave" voters are Tory. Not all are hard line, leave at all costs voters. Many won't like these tactics. Not as many as like them, I grant you, but enough. I cannot see him gaining votes from anywhere, except the Brexit Party, but I can see him losing them from softer leavers.

No-one WANTS a delay. They just want a no deal Brexit even less.

Imagine you are on a journey and you come to a raging river. On the other side some people tell you there is a land of milk and honey. The only way to cross is via a boat, but other people point out it is full of holes and probably won't get you there safely. What do you do? Risk the voyage because you are already tired of the journey and just want it over? Or wait and try to plug the holes so you can do it safely?

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