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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 07 Oct 19 12.18pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by W12

This is getting boring.

Maybe the remainers could explain what kind of remain they would like? Hard remain, soft remain etc.

Are you all OK being part of the European super-state and what kind of future do you see with the current level of immigration into the EU?

What puzzles me is why the ultra hard Brexiteers are so fixated in establishing an enemy called the "remainers". Those opposing a "no deal" Brexit come from many different categories. Sure there are some who have never accepted that the vote was valid, because of the way that leave conducted the campaign. Most though accept that now we have triggered Article 50 that we will leave. They just want it done properly.

 


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W12 07 Oct 19 12.31pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

What puzzles me is why the ultra hard Brexiteers are so fixated in establishing an enemy called the "remainers". Those opposing a "no deal" Brexit come from many different categories. Sure there are some who have never accepted that the vote was valid, because of the way that leave conducted the campaign. Most though accept that now we have triggered Article 50 that we will leave. They just want it done properly.

"properly" = our way = staying in the EU institutions or as close as possible whilst being able to claim that we have left

 

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View johnno42000's Profile johnno42000 Flag 07 Oct 19 12.40pm Send a Private Message to johnno42000 Add johnno42000 as a friend

Brexit

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'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 07 Oct 19 1.03pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by W12

"properly" = our way = staying in the EU institutions or as close as possible whilst being able to claim that we have left

"properly" = by the will of our elected Parliament.

 


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View elgrande's Profile elgrande Flag bedford 07 Oct 19 1.27pm Send a Private Message to elgrande Add elgrande as a friend

And now I remember why I kept out of it......FFS

 


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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 07 Oct 19 1.28pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

'No-deal Brexit could spark rise in dogging', cabinet minister warns.

At last a benefit from leave......

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 07 Oct 19 1.44pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You are, of course, entitled to your opinion which has been formed entirely on my comments here, which I suggest is not a particularly accurate way to determine character. I also form opinions on some of the others here, but I try to keep them to myself and concentrate on the posts, and not the poster.

Donald Trump has been accused of being a narcissist and we all have a huge amount of direct visual, oral as well as the written evidence, of his character to help us form our opinions. However, the professional psychologists in the USA refused to confirm it because they say that a clinical examination is needed before any such assessment is possible.

I will leave it to you to draw your own conclusions from those remarks as you seem to like to do that.

Tell me about your mother.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 07 Oct 19 1.45pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

What puzzles me is why the ultra hard Brexiteers are so fixated in establishing an enemy called the "remainers". Those opposing a "no deal" Brexit come from many different categories. Sure there are some who have never accepted that the vote was valid, because of the way that leave conducted the campaign. Most though accept that now we have triggered Article 50 that we will leave. They just want it done properly.

As opposed to that wonderful 'Remain' campaign and all that 'Project Fear' hogwash.

Apropos accepting Article 50, this is certainly not the case as far as the 'Lib Dems' are concerned nor the SNP.Labour have repeatedly waffled on about "Respecting the referendum" but will have voted against ANY deal that Mrs May brought to Parliament and will continue to be obstructive as they simply cannot stomach voting for a Conservative agreed deal with the EU.

I think I have spouted enough on this matter on HOL. It has been consuming my life outside this cherished site much to the chagrin of my dear wife who has had enough of my pontificating on this subject,hence I have concentrated on the football debates.I shall now bow out gracefully!

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 07 Oct 19 1.54pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That is 100% conspiracy theory.

Just 2 of the Judges have ANY EU responsibilities and they are only on an "ad hoc" basis. Their jobs won't finish after Brexit at all. Their EU function is a tiny part of what they do. As EU members I am actually surprised more of them aren't required to provide support.

Of course there is a Scottish judge. This is a UK court! One is from Wales and another from NI. Do you think they should all be English? I don't think too many in the other countries would be happy about that!

None are "former EU judges" but if they were, so what? They are judges, trained in the law. That's their profession. They are NOT politicians.

So far as I can see only 2 of the current Justices previously served as Law Lords, and whether they were Tory, Labour or independent appointees is totally irrelevant. They are Supreme Court Justices. Not Law Lords with a different name. The other 9 have all been appointed since the Supreme Court was created. So no party affiliations of any kind.

You are just going along with your narrative that these institutions are above bias. Also that parliament has impeccable motives. Frankly, just a repeat of the same ad nauseum. According to you it is all working out. Fair enough. I disagree and so do plenty of others.

 


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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Online Flag Horsham 07 Oct 19 2.42pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

The size of the chip on leavers’ shoulders about their intelligence is hilarious - have some confidence in your beliefs; why do you need remainers to tell you you’re right?

Edited by EverybodyDannsNow (07 Oct 2019 11.50am)

I don't. I know and those that know me will say I am not always right (ask the wife). I do not have a chip on my shoulder but Wissie seems to revel in talking down to people and dismissing any pro-leave news as "fake news". By the way I have every confidence in my beliefs and will continue to have thank you

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Online Flag Horsham 07 Oct 19 2.45pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That is 100% conspiracy theory.

Just 2 of the Judges have ANY EU responsibilities and they are only on an "ad hoc" basis. Their jobs won't finish after Brexit at all. Their EU function is a tiny part of what they do. As EU members I am actually surprised more of them aren't required to provide support.

Of course there is a Scottish judge. This is a UK court! One is from Wales and another from NI. Do you think they should all be English? I don't think too many in the other countries would be happy about that!

None are "former EU judges" but if they were, so what? They are judges, trained in the law. That's their profession. They are NOT politicians.

So far as I can see only 2 of the current Justices previously served as Law Lords, and whether they were Tory, Labour or independent appointees is totally irrelevant. They are Supreme Court Justices. Not Law Lords with a different name. The other 9 have all been appointed since the Supreme Court was created. So no party affiliations of any kind.

Doesn't mean they are not pro-remain though does it. You cannot, with 100% certainty, say their findings were not politically motivated. If you can provide concrete evidence then please do

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 07 Oct 19 3.06pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

I don't. I know and those that know me will say I am not always right (ask the wife). I do not have a chip on my shoulder but Wissie seems to revel in talking down to people and dismissing any pro-leave news as "fake news". By the way I have every confidence in my beliefs and will continue to have thank you

Mate on this thread alone you must be at about 20 “are you saying leavers are dumb” - it’s less of a chip, more of a whole potato at this point.

It’s something which long pre-dates ‘Wissie’ getting involved on here.

 

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