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View buzby1's Profile buzby1 Flag Devon 06 Nov 20 7.41pm Send a Private Message to buzby1 Add buzby1 as a friend

Trump didn’t lose.It’s impossible for him to lose. It’s all a great big conspiracy. Like the moon landings and vaccines and coronavirus. Excuse me I go find my big boy.pants.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 06 Nov 20 7.53pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

In spite of the fact that I see a clear connection between what resulted in Brexit and the election of Trump, as this thread is about the current US election, I won't get diverted into trying to explain my reasoning on Brexit any more. If you don't get it by now you are probably never going to.

What I will say is that the apparent likely collapse of Trumpism may herald the demise of western populism and therefore will be seen by historians as the time the tide began to turn in how we start to rebuild our relationship with the EU. Starting with agreeing a sensible deal.

Do keep up, your reply has nothing to do with the post I was responding to


Edited by Spiderman (06 Nov 2020 7.54pm)

 

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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 06 Nov 20 8.02pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Even you know this has been rigged Danny boy.

Suddenly all the key late counting states suddely turn to Biden when almost every state went as predicted on the night.

Sure they did.

The fact that all the usual media t***s are bending over backwards to hush any claims of fraud tells you something does it not?

Deluded.

 

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View Ketteridge's Profile Ketteridge Flag Brighton 06 Nov 20 8.03pm Send a Private Message to Ketteridge Add Ketteridge as a friend

Every state has followed a similar pattern, Republican voting on the day Democrat using postal votes. Ohio counted postal votes prior to the day and Biden racked up a lead which was whittled down and Trump won , Pennsylvania was the opposite not counting postal votes till after and you see the result is opposite. Arizona is different as the postal vote has been more even but there is history of all parties encouraging and using postal votes in that state.
For fraud to work you would not only need Democratic states like Pennsylvania to carry out the fraud but states with Republican governors like Georgia and Arizona to be on board. But it gets even worse as the same pattern of voting, Democrats using postal votes and Republicans voting in person can be seen in most over states. So they would have needed to commit the same fraud in those states to make for the cover lie, even those States that were full on Trump. But hold on hold while they are doing this mass scale fraud across the 30 or 40 steas that are also having senate election states not one person thinks hold on should we fix the Senate vote to give sleepy Joe more power! I mean I believe Beneteke could be a 20 goal a season forward given the service but you have to draw a line somewhere

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 06 Nov 20 8.05pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Your grasp on reality rivals Trump's.

Do you really not understand why those States turned? Really? Are you not following what is happening?


I understand that a lot of immigrants apparently voted for Biden and a lot of Trump supporters have died since last time.
None of that is relevant to the question of fraud. No one actually knows how people voted beyond what the official count says.

Pleae don't pretend that the American electoral system is above fraud.

Evidence needs to be produced or it matters not either way. Trump loses.


Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (06 Nov 2020 8.06pm)

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 06 Nov 20 8.07pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Deluded.

I don't think so. However, without evidence it is all just blah blah.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 06 Nov 20 8.13pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

Plenty of states declared early have still only counted 70, 80% , 90% of votes. It was just apparent which way they were going to go for either Dems or GOP so nobody focuses on them.

Of the swing states, some of them count postal votes concurrently, others after. In the latter case it would make sense that Biden would appear to close in. However the votes were all there anyway, and so we don't get to stop counting when our preferred candidate is leading. Trump's postal vote attack was always based on the fact that more dems would vote that way. It's not a genuine concern, just something that he convinces people to buy into as a fallback when things don't go his way. If you cast you mind back the election against Hillary was 'fixed' until he realised he'd won in which case it was suddenly a righteous verdict.


I actually think the result is a fair reading of the electorate. I don't see that the identity politics obsession of the nutty wing of the dems holds appeal for the average joe, so byebye blue wave. At the same time though, Trumps compulsive lying and routine lack of decency wears on people. His response to the coronavirus was the final straw in turning more against him personally (rather than against the GOP as a whole), further denting his popularity - though I do see the timing of it all as remarkably unlucky. There's no winning way to deal with something like this. Assuming he stays in good health and fends of the many legal troubles being President shielded him from, I can see him running again in 2024 as in Independent, which would certainly throw a spanner in the works.

If you were to a commit fraud of this nature, you make sure that you to make it look legitemate. People that loathe Trump have already made up their minds or are happy to take the win, fraud or not. My view is that it would have been a miracle had Trump won in the media environment that prevails. Despite that, he has run a close race. I suspected way before the election that Trump would not be allowed to win a second time.
It will be interesting to see what happens when this goes to the courts. Who really owns the judges?

 

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View SW19 CPFC's Profile SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 06 Nov 20 8.22pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger


I understand that a lot of immigrants apparently voted for Biden and a lot of Trump supporters have died since last time.
None of that is relevant to the question of fraud. No one actually knows how people voted beyond what the official count says.

Pleae don't pretend that the American electoral system is above fraud.

Evidence needs to be produced or it matters not either way. Trump loses.


Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (06 Nov 2020 8.06pm)

You actually are deluded

Pie and mash fingers, behind the hedgerows, wrapped in tin foil

Of course it’s not above fraud. But the chance of millions of votes being fraudulent is vanishingly small. If there is proof, the republicans are yet to produce it. It’s hot air strategy and the last unbearable farts of a desperate man.

Trump is the one that turned his fan base against the postal vote. He f***ed himself here. Ironically he has also benefitted from the very thing he is complaining about in some states.

He’s a whiny entitled dick. As someone said, the republicans will now try and find someone who can have the same impact, with similar policies but with a less dickish, childish and less orange approach.

That will pay off - IF, they act soon to limit the damage he is starting to create for the GOP

 


Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

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View SW19 CPFC's Profile SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 06 Nov 20 8.26pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

If you were to a commit fraud of this nature, you make sure that you to make it look legitemate. People that loathe Trump have already made up their minds or are happy to take the win, fraud or not. My view is that it would have been a miracle had Trump won in the media environment that prevails. Despite that, he has run a close race. I suspected way before the election that Trump would not be allowed to win a second time.
It will be interesting to see what happens when this goes to the courts. Who really owns the judges?

In the Supreme Court, The republicans, 6 to 3, thanks to Trump.

You really are coming across as an unbalanced idiot. Even for you this is stellar levels of stupidity.

If he has proof, let’s see it. So far, nothing.

 


Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 06 Nov 20 8.38pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger


I understand that a lot of immigrants apparently voted for Biden and a lot of Trump supporters have died since last time.
None of that is relevant to the question of fraud. No one actually knows how people voted beyond what the official count says.

Pleae don't pretend that the American electoral system is above fraud.

Evidence needs to be produced or it matters not either way. Trump loses.


Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (06 Nov 2020 8.06pm)

Interested to see your take on what is an "immigrant" in the USA context. If you mean people with dark skin then say so. Even ch4 news are openly linking skin colour to Democrat voters.

Also no system is above fraud. I doubt there has ever been an election completely without fraud or error. The questions are who by and by what degree?

Thus I would be genuinely amazed if trumps supporters didn't engineer some shenanigans in Florida to secure that result.

 

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 06 Nov 20 8.44pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

In the Supreme Court, The republicans, 6 to 3, thanks to Trump.

You really are coming across as an unbalanced idiot. Even for you this is stellar levels of stupidity.

If he has proof, let’s see it. So far, nothing.

I don't dispute your assessment but are you within our rules to say that?

 

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jeeagles Flag 06 Nov 20 8.52pm

Effectively, Biden seems to have done what Oldham did in '93, except it would have been an Oldham team that needed to win each game by 4 goals.

Not beyond the realms of possibility, but very strange.

I'm not claiming foul play, but then again, I was shocked to find Lance Armstrong was on used drugs to when he came back stronger than ever following his battle against cancer.

There are some republican supporters in all 4 corners of the earth who might call you cheats, but who cares, it helped you win! By a very very narrow margin, against a fat spoilt child with a brain the size of a newt.

Congratulations guys, what are you going to blame all your problems on over the next 4 years?

 

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