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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 03 Oct 22 4.24pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Glazier#1

Sorry, can't agree.

The lying Eton Mess belongs nowhere near government imo.

Even though his inept 'cuddliness' seems to give him a patina of 'man of the people'.

You are obviously a Labour supporter,, serious question would you have preferred Corbin to Boris? If so why?

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 03 Oct 22 4.25pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

A top Conservative party donor has announced his defection to Labour with a £100,000 donation to Sir Keir Starmer’s party.

Gareth Quarry accused Liz Truss and her Kwasi Kwarteng of being “zealots” and said the Tories had made Britain “a laughing stock”.

The multimillionaire said the prime minister and chancellor were practising “GCSE economics” but described Labour as “sensible people who have got their feet on the ground”.

Wow, don't think I can take being sensible and having my feet on the ground. I'll have to have a lie down.......


Presumably the type of donor you were critical of, when donating to the Tories?

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 03 Oct 22 4.29pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Thanks some useful input.

I can see how some departments would increase post Brexit as the UK untangles itself from the EU as it create new laws and has to make new bilateral agreements with other countries.

However once you are over this initial hump I suspect that some of the jobs may no longer be required which begs the question will the Civil Service downsize?

I think it will but it should start from the top but unfortunately I doubt that will happen. It will probably be voluntary redundancies and, believe me, it will the lower end who will want to go, having been fed up with being managed by those who know nothing about the job.
For those supporting CS cuts, you cannot then complain about waiting times for passports, driving license renewals, etc

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 03 Oct 22 4.33pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Presumably the type of donor you were critical of, when donating to the Tories?

He's only coughing up £100,000 so not enough for a peerage.....

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 03 Oct 22 4.55pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

He's only coughing up £100,000 so not enough for a peerage.....

They'll be cheaper under Starmer - he's going to deal with those high prices.

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 03 Oct 22 5.44pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

They'll be cheaper under Starmer - he's going to deal with those high prices.

Probably by making 35-40k income fall into the 40% bracket or using joint earnings into a household. Remember what you wish for peoples as you might get your wish with the dependable Labour Party.

 

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View Glazier#1's Profile Glazier#1 Flag 03 Oct 22 5.58pm Send a Private Message to Glazier#1 Add Glazier#1 as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

You are obviously a Labour supporter,, serious question would you have preferred Corbin to Boris? If so why?

No, I didn't support Corbyn but because he had no ability to put his policies to the people with any persuasion, commitment or charisma.

I saw him speak to the converted at the Tolpuddle rally in Dorset and he had the charisma of a tadpole tbh.

In our consevative (snmall c) country, we need someone with the vision and abilitiy to inspire people to look for a brighter future rather than the selfish Darwinism and dogma of the Conservative party.

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 03 Oct 22 6.10pm

Originally posted by cryrst

So because the chancellor reversed a decision he made it’s the PM who takes the fall.
It doesn’t work like that. If the chancellor admits it’s his decision then the PM is correct. Hindsight is wonderful and I’m sure you’ve never made a bad decision and then changed your mind. You and some others on here are just the most perfect people and I’m full of admiration and envy for your lives and god like existence !!

As I stated in a previous post, she said " we" didn"t consult the cabinet- then said it was his decision when asked who"s decision was it! The "we", suggests she was well in with it! I f you were thinking of me as perfect- I thank you!

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 03 Oct 22 6.12pm

Originally posted by Badger11

Politician who refuses to change their mind on a controversial measure:

Out of touch with the voters, intransigent, uncaring etc.

Politician who listens and admits mistakes:

U Turn, weak, wobbly, dithering

Some times you can't win.


The lady"s NOT, for turning! Unless, he insists on doggy styly!

 

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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 03 Oct 22 8.32pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

The issue with this U turn is not about the tax cut itself. It is about just how little courage Truss has.

Their tax-cutting proposals were bold moves. Designed to get a moribund economy moving again. And signalling that they supported high-earners as well, was a powerful message.

For a few days I started to believe that we might just be seeing the start again of a proper Conservative Government. But that is over now, before it even started.

Starmer is a full-on US stooge. Suspect he was bought and paid for back in his days as head of the CPS. If you are sad enough, look into the effort he put into trying to depart Gary McKinnon, some dopey hacker with Asperger's syndrome. Staggering when you realise how Starmer scuppered a UK prosecution because he wanted the man to face decades in jail in the US.

Starmer is Washington's man. And they want him in number 10 ASAP.

You want a prediction? General election within the next 9 months. Perhaps coming about due to a mass defection of Tory MP's to a 'Government' of National Uniity, led by Starmer. Not sure they could pull off such a stunt without a General Election but that would be a foregone conclusion.

Let's see.

But Truss is dead in the water. Failed at the first hurdle.

 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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View The groover's Profile The groover Flag Danbury 03 Oct 22 10.46pm Send a Private Message to The groover Add The groover as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It would have been more popular for sure but would have spooked the markets beyond anything we have seen so far and who knows what the result of that would be.

The excuse for cutting the top rate was to stimulate the economy. It would have cost £6.6b but only benefited 660,000 people.

Cutting the basic rate by 5p would benefit nearly all working people and would cost £5b.

 

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View The groover's Profile The groover Flag Danbury 03 Oct 22 10.53pm Send a Private Message to The groover Add The groover as a friend

Kwasi Kwarteng - My mini budget my have caused a "little turbulence!!!!"

Biggest understatement since King Harold said "look at that t*** with the bow and arrow. If he's not careful he's going to have someones eye out!"

Truss and Kwarteng have already proved they are not fit to run the country.

She cut all Sunik supporters from the Cabinet like a petulant child.

Looking at the debates before the tory election Sunik predicted exactly what would happen were she to do what she promised. Literally word for word.

Sunik should have been given the reigns for sure and there must be a lot of tory members thinking what the f*** have we done!!!

Idiots. This will take a lot to come back from. 34 points behind labour!!!

 

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