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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 15 Feb 23 3.19pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by CrazyBadger

I think you've both arguing for, and against VAR at once there - and I totally agree !

VAR will be good for football, in it's evolved state. Right now it's not fit for purpose.
Take it away, get it right, then redeploy it properly. Don't employ a half baked, untested system on your Platinum product, test it out, iron out the kinks somewhere else first.

When the Technology is good enough to accurately track and Map ALL elements at play, i.e. ball position, defenders arm position etc, allowing for instant(ish) decisions (which will happen eventially) Then i'll be behind it.

right now it's a good idea badly implemented.

VAR magnifies issues that have always been there in football e.g. offside. Now that the technology is being used FIFA should consider changing the rules I think most of us think it silly that someones toe or arm is offside by a few inches.

In athletics the winner of a race is based on a line through the chest so other body parts are irrelevant for example.

Edited by Badger11 (15 Feb 2023 3.20pm)

 


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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 15 Feb 23 3.21pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

The VAR system as it operated last Saturday, in favour of Crystal Palace, is one I support.

Please do not tinker with it !!!!!


Didn't work for Jota running into Guaita smiling though. It's just the same as before - usually favouring the big teams
Also just as incorrect and as subjective as before. But a good point, however.

 


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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 15 Feb 23 3.24pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Feels as though there's an element of justifying its existence.

This seems to be correct. Pushing ahead with it without it being liked by the fans - who everyone seems to forget are ultimately your customers. Football must be the only business that pisses off its customers constantly, yet they always come back. That and selling fags, heroin, crack or drink to alcoholics.

 


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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Online Flag 15 Feb 23 3.31pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

This seems to be correct. Pushing ahead with it without it being liked by the fans - who everyone seems to forget are ultimately your customers. Football must be the only business that pisses off its customers constantly, yet they always come back. That and selling fags, heroin, crack or drink to alcoholics.

Or U2 records when Bonio is larging it.

 

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View MrRobbo's Profile MrRobbo Flag Purley 15 Feb 23 3.44pm Send a Private Message to MrRobbo Add MrRobbo as a friend

Personally I'd be in favour of a challenge system. Instead of reviewing everything. It works well in other sports.

The one thing I particularly hate is sending the ref over to view it on the monitor. If he's got it wrong call it, if its marginal/debatable, let the original decision stand.

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 15 Feb 23 4.25pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by MrRobbo

Personally I'd be in favour of a challenge system. Instead of reviewing everything. It works well in other sports.

The one thing I particularly hate is sending the ref over to view it on the monitor. If he's got it wrong call it, if its marginal/debatable, let the original decision stand.

I said this from the very beginning!

Each manager should get 2/3 and applied same as Tennis - Correct challenge you keep it if not you lose it.

Might just fuel further controversy when inevitably VAR still gets things wrong however might also mitigate moaning from teams/managers as it'd be on them. Might also help with cheating too.

 


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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 15 Feb 23 4.28pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Or U2 records when Bonio is larging it.

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 15 Feb 23 4.39pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

If the lines were drawn in the wrong place or not at all, that is negligence of duty surely?

I appreciate that 'Negligence/Negligent" is used in everyday parlance to describe similar scenarios, however legally what you have described does not meet the elements of the tort of 'Negligence'.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 15 Feb 23 4.43pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

I said this from the very beginning!

Each manager should get 2/3 and applied same as Tennis - Correct challenge you keep it if not you lose it.

Might just fuel further controversy when inevitably VAR still gets things wrong however might also mitigate moaning from teams/managers as it'd be on them. Might also help with cheating too.

They will still complain when a manager has used up his challenges and can't on a blatant mistake.

 


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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 15 Feb 23 4.49pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

They will still complain when a manager has used up his challenges and can't on a blatant mistake.

True, but you'd hope they'd firstly start using them wisely in the first instance and secondly stop the antics of the likes of Klopp/Conte as they could either challenge or face up to the fact they can't as they'd already been wrong on a few occasions. Would therefore be their own fault if they could not challenge something else!

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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View SW19 CPFC's Profile SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 15 Feb 23 5.26pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

True, but you'd hope they'd firstly start using them wisely in the first instance and secondly stop the antics of the likes of Klopp/Conte as they could either challenge or face up to the fact they can't as they'd already been wrong on a few occasions. Would therefore be their own fault if they could not challenge something else!

It's a nice suggestion, but you'd also have to weigh up the negative effects of it being introduced, eg. time wasting and tactical use. Much like players using it to their advantage in tennis – allowing time for recovery, or breaking an opponents concentration, stopping the momentum and so on. You're also adding to the amount of stoppages across the game.

It's not a silver bullet.

 


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View SW19 CPFC's Profile SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 15 Feb 23 5.28pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

You prefer football since VAR? You have every right to say so.

You read? See above, 1.26pm.

Edited by SW19 CPFC (15 Feb 2023 5.28pm)

 


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