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Palace Old Geezer Midhurst 19 Jan 22 2.18pm
Originally posted by The Dolphin Boris has not been a disaster as Steeleye said. He won a landslide election, saw Brexit through and has been in charge during the pandemic and the vaccination process. There are pros and cons regarding the pandemic but ultimately he has performed as well as most other leaders around the world given the poisened chalice they were all handed by the Chinese. He is being undone by the minutae and trying to get out of it - lies creating more lies and so on. He has been surrounded by the wrong people and that includes Cummings. The Conservatives will be weaker without him when he goes - probably by the end of the week - because the rest of them bar maybe Sunak - are pygmies by comparison. He has been ill advised and arrogantly stupid but I genuinely believe that he has been good for London and then the Country. Hear, hear! Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.
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Originally posted by The Dolphin

Boris has not been a disaster as Steeleye said.
He won a landslide election, saw Brexit through and has been in charge during the pandemic and the vaccination process.
There are pros and cons regarding the pandemic but ultimately he has performed as well as most other leaders around the world given the poisened chalice they were all handed by the Chinese.
He is being undone by the minutae and trying to get out of it - lies creating more lies and so on.
He has been surrounded by the wrong people and that includes Cummings.
The Conservatives will be weaker without him when he goes - probably by the end of the week - because the rest of them bar maybe Sunak - are pygmies by comparison.
He has been ill advised and arrogantly stupid but I genuinely believe that he has been good for London and then the Country.

Hear, hear!

Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.

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steeleye20 Croydon 19 Jan 22 2.36pm
Johnson is an utter disaster. Record inflation. Draconian laws. Energy crisis. Corruption and endless deceit. The botched brexit deal and reducing our interests and reputation throughout the world. Johnson as been consistent as PM in having no regard for our interests purely his own neck. Winning an election does not cut it either, Thatcher did not last long after her third landslide election.
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Croydon 19 Jan 22 2.36pm

Johnson is an utter disaster.

Record inflation.
Draconian laws.
Energy crisis.
Corruption and endless deceit.

The botched brexit deal and reducing our interests and reputation throughout the world.

Johnson as been consistent as PM in having no regard for our interests purely his own neck.

Winning an election does not cut it either, Thatcher did not last long after her third landslide election.

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BlueJay UK 19 Jan 22 4.12pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger You Lefties are so desperate that you cling on to this low importance nonsense while the country needs to focus on far more important issues. As way of reminder, when a group of women worried for their safety following the rape, murder and burning of Sarah Everard were manhandled and arrested for gathering together you waxed lyrical about how deplorable these women were due to their 'illegal gathering during a pandemic' and 'breaking the law'. Well what precisely do you think the activity you now defend is? Looking into this is suddenly 'low importance nonsense' when defending political allegiance to a bunch of self important toffs who don't give a toss about you. Honestly, the near depraved levels of subservience these people can extract from people. Don't be a mug all your life. Edited by BlueJay (19 Jan 2022 4.20pm)
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UK 19 Jan 22 4.12pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You Lefties are so desperate that you cling on to this low importance nonsense while the country needs to focus on far more important issues.

As way of reminder, when a group of women worried for their safety following the rape, murder and burning of Sarah Everard were manhandled and arrested for gathering together you waxed lyrical about how deplorable these women were due to their 'illegal gathering during a pandemic' and 'breaking the law'. Well what precisely do you think the activity you now defend is? Looking into this is suddenly 'low importance nonsense' when defending political allegiance to a bunch of self important toffs who don't give a toss about you. Honestly, the near depraved levels of subservience these people can extract from people. Don't be a mug all your life.

Edited by BlueJay (19 Jan 2022 4.20pm)

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BlueJay UK 19 Jan 22 4.18pm
Originally posted by Matov Have to agree. It's just the piss poor judgment around it. At a time when people could not go to funerals and the like, then the optics of deciding to stand around drinking wine in the company of others, when you have made the rules in the first place, is beyond poor. Sheer hubris on a scale that renders people incapable of holding a leadership position. And for the balance, even the wisdom of Starmer swigging a beer whilst supposedly 'working' does not bode well either. But its a minute crime when compared to what Johnson over-saw. These people are not fit to lead. It's that simple now. Edited by Matov (19 Jan 2022 12.19pm) That's exactly it. I can in part understand complacency when there is little real opposition, but the nerve of feeling so comfortable that they can stand there placing severe restrictions by force of law on us (important family moments we can never get back etc) then swan off for drinks party after drinks party is beyond belief. Then the denials and lies. They don't think any commonly expected standard of behavior or law applies to them. Unfortunately, frequently they are often right.
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UK 19 Jan 22 4.18pm

Originally posted by Matov

Have to agree. It's just the piss poor judgment around it. At a time when people could not go to funerals and the like, then the optics of deciding to stand around drinking wine in the company of others, when you have made the rules in the first place, is beyond poor. Sheer hubris on a scale that renders people incapable of holding a leadership position.

And for the balance, even the wisdom of Starmer swigging a beer whilst supposedly 'working' does not bode well either. But its a minute crime when compared to what Johnson over-saw.

These people are not fit to lead. It's that simple now.

Edited by Matov (19 Jan 2022 12.19pm)

That's exactly it. I can in part understand complacency when there is little real opposition, but the nerve of feeling so comfortable that they can stand there placing severe restrictions by force of law on us (important family moments we can never get back etc) then swan off for drinks party after drinks party is beyond belief. Then the denials and lies. They don't think any commonly expected standard of behavior or law applies to them. Unfortunately, frequently they are often right.

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Hrolf The Ganger 19 Jan 22 4.24pm
Originally posted by BlueJay As way of reminder, when a group of women worried for their safety following the rape, murder and burning of Sarah Everard were manhandled and arrested for gathering together you waxed lyrical about how deplorable these women were due to their 'illegal gathering during a pandemic' and 'breaking the law'. Well what precisely do you think the activity you now defend is? Looking into this is suddenly 'low importance nonsense' when defending political allegiance to a bunch of self important toffs who don't give a toss about you. Honestly, the depraved levels of subservience these people can extract from people. Don't be a mug all your life. Edited by BlueJay (19 Jan 2022 4.13pm) Hardly worth a response. The women you mentioned were mostly there for a completely pointless political demonstration in the middle of a lockdown, and they were indeed breaking the law. You talk as if only Tories are guilty of hypocrisy and rule bending. Get a grip. The subservience here is your idiotic quasi religious faith in socialism and the wannabees that peddle it. I don't care if Tory HQ is the scene of a Romanesque orgy every night, as long as they run the country responsibly. Why do you care? Because you hate people who are better off than you.
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Originally posted by BlueJay

As way of reminder, when a group of women worried for their safety following the rape, murder and burning of Sarah Everard were manhandled and arrested for gathering together you waxed lyrical about how deplorable these women were due to their 'illegal gathering during a pandemic' and 'breaking the law'. Well what precisely do you think the activity you now defend is? Looking into this is suddenly 'low importance nonsense' when defending political allegiance to a bunch of self important toffs who don't give a toss about you. Honestly, the depraved levels of subservience these people can extract from people. Don't be a mug all your life.

Edited by BlueJay (19 Jan 2022 4.13pm)

Hardly worth a response.

The women you mentioned were mostly there for a completely pointless political demonstration in the middle of a lockdown, and they were indeed breaking the law.

You talk as if only Tories are guilty of hypocrisy and rule bending.
Get a grip. The subservience here is your idiotic quasi religious faith in socialism and the wannabees that peddle it.

I don't care if Tory HQ is the scene of a Romanesque orgy every night, as long as they run the country responsibly.

Why do you care? Because you hate people who are better off than you.

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Hrolf The Ganger 19 Jan 22 4.45pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Johnson is an utter disaster. Record inflation. Draconian laws. Energy crisis. Corruption and endless deceit. The botched brexit deal and reducing our interests and reputation throughout the world. Johnson as been consistent as PM in having no regard for our interests purely his own neck. Winning an election does not cut it either, Thatcher did not last long after her third landslide election. What twaddle.
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19 Jan 22 4.45pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Johnson is an utter disaster.

Record inflation.
Draconian laws.
Energy crisis.
Corruption and endless deceit.

The botched brexit deal and reducing our interests and reputation throughout the world.

Johnson as been consistent as PM in having no regard for our interests purely his own neck.

Winning an election does not cut it either, Thatcher did not last long after her third landslide election.

What twaddle.

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steeleye20 Croydon 19 Jan 22 4.48pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger What twaddle. I neglected to mention the largest tax hike since Attlee's post-war construction. And its not going into anything like that.
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Croydon 19 Jan 22 4.48pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

What twaddle.

I neglected to mention the largest tax hike since Attlee's post-war construction.

And its not going into anything like that.

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 19 Jan 22 4.50pm
Free lateral flow tests are said to be coming to an end in June- its £30 a pop for a box of 7 after- lets hope some great money is made for the few, tip hats righties- they deserve it!
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Any european country i fancy! 19 Jan 22 4.50pm

Free lateral flow tests are said to be coming to an end in June- its £30 a pop for a box of 7 after- lets hope some great money is made for the few, tip hats righties- they deserve it!

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cryrst The garden of England 19 Jan 22 5.08pm
Originally posted by croydon proud Free lateral flow tests are said to be coming to an end in June- its £30 a pop for a box of 7 after- lets hope some great money is made for the few, tip hats righties- they deserve it! And would you join in with making a Bob or two. Got your codes yet?
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The garden of England 19 Jan 22 5.08pm

Originally posted by croydon proud

Free lateral flow tests are said to be coming to an end in June- its £30 a pop for a box of 7 after- lets hope some great money is made for the few, tip hats righties- they deserve it!

And would you join in with making a Bob or two.
Got your codes yet?

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cryrst The garden of England 19 Jan 22 5.11pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Johnson is an utter disaster. Record inflation. Draconian laws. Energy crisis. Corruption and endless deceit. The botched brexit deal and reducing our interests and reputation throughout the world. Johnson as been consistent as PM in having no regard for our interests purely his own neck. Winning an election does not cut it either, Thatcher did not last long after her third landslide election. First 3 are actually worldwide. Eg it costs 10x as much to get a shipping container from Asia to Europe as it did 2 years ago. I suppose that's brexit and boris is it. What corruption are you on about and deceit is in all of us but we arnt in the spotlight like hmg. As hrolf said pure twaddle
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The garden of England 19 Jan 22 5.11pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Johnson is an utter disaster.

Record inflation.
Draconian laws.
Energy crisis.
Corruption and endless deceit.

The botched brexit deal and reducing our interests and reputation throughout the world.

Johnson as been consistent as PM in having no regard for our interests purely his own neck.

Winning an election does not cut it either, Thatcher did not last long after her third landslide election.

First 3 are actually worldwide. Eg it costs 10x as much to get a shipping container from Asia to Europe as it did 2 years ago.
I suppose that's brexit and boris is it. What corruption are you on about and deceit is in all of us but we arnt in the spotlight like hmg.
As hrolf said pure twaddle

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Hrolf The Ganger 19 Jan 22 5.19pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 I neglected to mention the largest tax hike since Attlee's post-war construction. And its not going into anything like that. After a pandemic. You are a communist. You live in a fantasy of failed ideals.
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Hrolf The Ganger

19 Jan 22 5.19pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

I neglected to mention the largest tax hike since Attlee's post-war construction.

And its not going into anything like that.

After a pandemic.

You are a communist. You live in a fantasy of failed ideals.

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 19 Jan 22 5.28pm
Originally posted by cryrst And would you join in with making a Bob or two. Got your codes yet? What codes?
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Any european country i fancy! 19 Jan 22 5.28pm

Originally posted by cryrst

And would you join in with making a Bob or two.
Got your codes yet?

What codes?

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