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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 25 Nov 16 10.06pm

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

The only way for true impartiality is to follow a variety of news outlets for a balanced view, then make up your own mind.

I look at RT and find it most interesting. They cover stories the UK media won't. Again, it's about balance.

Edited by Penge Eagle (25 Nov 2016 9.58pm)

Max Keiser is ace. Didn't RT have their UK bank account frozen recently?

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 25 Nov 16 10.11pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

What I find most ridiculous about ITV News is the delivery. It is Brass Eye. I swear that they all take sensational lessons.

 

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legaleagle Flag 25 Nov 16 10.14pm

I was in the US last week,Penge Eagle, and listened to NPR quite a lot as usual.

While I would say there is no such thing as either an utterly objective media outlet (or indeed for that matter a human being),I would say the BBC and NPR come nearer than most.What do you think in a US context?

In terms of a balance,I completely agree,so,for example,I might look at the Guardian on a near daily basis but would also read The Economist weekly and regularly look at stories online in the The Times and The Telegraph,and listen regularly in the car to the BBC world service which has a more global orientation in its range of news and presentation.

 

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Originally posted by Penge Eagle

The only way for true impartiality is to follow a variety of news outlets for a balanced view, then make up your own mind.

I look at RT and find it most interesting. They cover stories the UK media won't. Again, it's about balance.

Edited by Penge Eagle (25 Nov 2016 9.58pm)

The first bit, absolutely.

But to say RT is impartial is like saying CCTV or North Korea's news is.

 


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Originally posted by legaleagle

I was in the US last week,Penge Eagle, and listened to NPR quite a lot as usual.

While I would say there is no such thing as either an utterly objective media outlet (or indeed for that matter a human being),I would say the BBC and NPR come nearer than most.What do you think in a US context?

In terms of a balance,I completely agree,so,for example,I might look at the Guardian on a near daily basis but would also read The Economist weekly and regularly look at stories online in the The Times and The Telegraph,and listen regularly in the car to the BBC world service which has a more global orientation in its range of news and presentation.

I don't listen to NPR but watch CNN and Fox News. First up, neither actually cover any news! They take a news line from the White House/president's campaign and spend the entire day having a series of talking heads arguing to and fro about it. There's so much of: "he's racist and sexist because..." and "he's not because...". It really becomes tiresome but I guess entertaining because the channels are after ratings.

Fox News is NOT this crazy, fringe channel people in the UK think it is. We have always been fed clips with some weird or offensive comments, UK people believe it's always like that. It's not. You could do the same with the BBC if you scan every guest that ever comes on the channel.

CNN is so biased towards the Democrats and MSNBC are even worse. It's only fair that Fox News covers it from a Republican point of view but they actually criticise the party if need be. Megyn Kelly is pretty good and she has exposed Trump a couple of times and he was realled fcuked off. I don't think CNN's Blitzer, Lemon et al would to Hillary.

CNN had a pundit on yesterday who said Nigel Farage has links with the KKK and another guy said UKIP backer Aaron Banks was funded by the Kremlin! Trouble is, the 'neutral' anchor is unaware if it's true or false so doesn't intervene and the bulls*** appears as fact!

Other observations... The local Fox News stations are pretty good in their coverage of the state. A lot of the female political pundits are hot! Need more of that in the UK.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 25 Nov 16 10.39pm

Originally posted by Stuk

The first bit, absolutely.

But to say RT is impartial is like saying CCTV or North Korea's news is.

Who said RT is impartial?

 

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Originally posted by Stuk

The first bit, absolutely.

But to say RT is impartial is like saying CCTV or North Korea's news is.

I meant impartial view overall – not that RT was impartial as clearly it is not. However, it seems one of the few outlets that holds the EU to account.

 

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Originally posted by nickgusset

Who said RT is impartial?

A bloke I was speaking to a few months ago, if you look at my earlier posts.

I had a bet with him regarding the German elections next year based on his surmises.

 


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Originally posted by Penge Eagle

I meant impartial view overall – not that RT was impartial as clearly it is not. However, it seems one of the few outlets that holds the EU to account.

While they do point out the many foibles of the EU it doesn't help that they're clearly state scripted.

 


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I tend to rely on RT and Breitbart.

 


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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Is it me or is Television news becoming less about news and more about propaganda.
Now I know we all see something different when we observe, but the ITV News lately has become like watching a party political broadcast on behalf of the liberal/left, ethnic minority Party.
Now I'm all for proportional representation of political views and racial demographics but that is not what I'm seeing on ITV news. It appears to be heavily weighted in one direction. I want to see news that is not selective, not full of biased editorial comment and considerate of the whole country, not just anti brexit, left wing, cosmopolitan London.
Channel 4 is generally is off the scale.

Now I know there will be some clever chaps who will tell me that it balances out newspaper right wing bias but they know that is tosh. Hardly anyone reads newspapers anymore.

Can you elaborate on that? I know a lot of people, from a lot of backgrounds and I swear I've never in my life heard people bemoaning ethnic minority coverage on ITV news? Strange times.

Edited by blackpalacefan (26 Nov 2016 8.07am)

 

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Originally posted by Stuk

While they do point out the many foibles of the EU it doesn't help that they're clearly state scripted.

Yeah we know that.

 

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