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View Sedlescombe's Profile Sedlescombe Flag Sedlescombe 23 Jan 17 1.51pm Send a Private Message to Sedlescombe Add Sedlescombe as a friend

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

He's not the sort of bloke to just sit in the White House and let people bad mouth him.

He's got to where he is today by taking on anyone that has a bad word to say about him.... and throwing it back tenfold.

Well he got where he is today firstly because he inherited the equivalent of billions of dollars - and if you use the S&P as a measure he hasn't added a dollar of value to that which he inherited but that is a separate matter.

He doesnt just take on anyone who has a bad word about him though does he? At best he is the type of guy that gets his retaliation in first. He trashes anyone that gets in the way; makes fun of people who are disabled. At heart he is a bully plain and simple. Still that never previously has been an impediment to a career in politics.

 

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Originally posted by Sedlescombe

Well he got where he is today firstly because he inherited the equivalent of billions of dollars - and if you use the S&P as a measure he hasn't added a dollar of value to that which he inherited but that is a separate matter.

He doesnt just take on anyone who has a bad word about him though does he? At best he is the type of guy that gets his retaliation in first. He trashes anyone that gets in the way; makes fun of people who are disabled. At heart he is a bully plain and simple. Still that never previously has been an impediment to a career in politics.

What you are describing is a mobster not president of the USA you do need judgement in political life and luck but it will run out?

Hanging on to his tax returns seems like he is bringing it all on himself.


 

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.TUX. Flag 23 Jan 17 5.41pm

Originally posted by Kermit8



A) The economy? We will see in three years time once we do actually Brexit but not many, if any, from either side are genuinely expecting it to be better and a fair few believe we are heading for a decade or more of disruption, uncertainty and higher costs and lower standards of living.

This will be nothing to do with Brexit, more the global economy as a whole entering a severe downturn. (PS Our standard of living hasn't improved since the late 70's early 80's).

B) The world looks like it is already beginning to be a more dangerous place under Trump. Appears he gave Nethanyahu the green light to build on illegally Occupied Land yesterday. You can forget the two-state solution advancing with talks any time soon but look out for major bloodshed over there coming to your TV screens fairly soon.

Only to some.

c) Voting UKIP and Brexit, for whatever reason, has also meant joining forces with those of the Far Right and you both have earned your pyrrhic victory, especially so with a Hard Brexit.

I hope my views are far-fetched, Matthew. I sincerely do.

 


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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted


But the press are shameless liars and fans of alternative facts.... I gave you an example of it in my post.

It takes two to tango (I'm repeating myself now).

I don't blame Trump for employing someone to fight fire with fire and lying bollocks with lying bollocks.

The press though correct and then apologise if they make a mistake. We all make mistakes. Spinning a story is not the same as telling outright lies, which is what Trump and his team have blatantly done and did again yesterday. Trump tweets aggressive criticism of the security services one week and then blames the press for reporting what he said the next, calling the press even worst names than he called the security services. The man is an idiot, who is a confidence trickster at best, and a dangerous megalomaniac at worst. It is appalling that he managed to fool so many Americans and really puzzling that anyone from the UK cannot see past his very obvious unsuitability for high office. As a reality TV host, or circus ringmaster, he has some merit. He is amusing in a distasteful kind of way. As a President he is a cruel joke. The USA has just given up it's position on the world stage and now we await the outcome. Who fills the vacuum is the dangerous part and will they be challenged?

 


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.TUX. Flag 23 Jan 17 7.07pm

Originally posted by Sedlescombe

Well he got where he is today firstly because he inherited the equivalent of billions of dollars - and if you use the S&P as a measure he hasn't added a dollar of value to that which he inherited but that is a separate matter.

He doesnt just take on anyone who has a bad word about him though does he? At best he is the type of guy that gets his retaliation in first. He trashes anyone that gets in the way; makes fun of people who are disabled. At heart he is a bully plain and simple. Still that never previously has been an impediment to a career in politics.

Ah, so you do know something about economics..........or did you just read something on 'Google'
As i was saying (you've yet to answer possibly because you can't?), why does HM Treasury continually choose to NOT print (from thin air) OUR own money but instead choose to use the Bank of England despite the fact it charges US interest?
Who in their right mind would do that?

(Are you listening Kerm )

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 24 Jan 17 9.52am

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted


But the press are shameless liars and fans of alternative facts.... I gave you an example of it in my post.

It takes two to tango (I'm repeating myself now).

I don't blame Trump for employing someone to fight fire with fire and lying bollocks with lying bollocks.

Both need to be held accountable. To me, that starts with the highest authority, taking the high ground and just pointing out the facts. Same as journalists who don't fact check, should be held accountable by their editors.

We're now in a situation where people bandy around phrases like 'alt facts' 'Post-truth', when what they mean are 'we're lying b****** scum who regard you the people as f**king idiots'.

Democracy cannot survive when the public can have no confidence in the sources of its information. And that has to start with its leaders, and the fourth estate.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 24 Jan 17 10.01am

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

He's not the sort of bloke to just sit in the White House and let people bad mouth him.

He's got to where he is today by taking on anyone that has a bad word to say about him.... and throwing it back tenfold.

Yeah, and that makes him an ideal candidate for the highest political office in the US. Its not like a national leader should possess tact, and a thick skin.

Even before being elected he's managed to cause a minor diplomatic fall out with Mexico.

He's got to where he is by being a white, rich, privileged guy from the social elite, who has little to no regard as to the feelings of other people. especially women.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 24 Jan 17 10.01am

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

Wasn't the anti Trump press caught lying too Kermy?

News Reports that said Trump had removed the bust of Martin Luther King from the Oval office? Then said that a CIA officer must have been stood in front of it when proven wrong!

It takes two to tango.....

The Trump administration seem to be lying a lot. But I suppose the justification will be 'oh they all do it'. That doesn't somehow make it right though does it. I can see America becoming a laughing stock if such blatant bulls***ting continues

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 24 Jan 17 10.04am

Originally posted by steeleye20

What you are describing is a mobster not president of the USA you do need judgement in political life and luck but it will run out?

Hanging on to his tax returns seems like he is bringing it all on himself.

Which presumably will either show he's paid no tax, or that he's no where near as rich as he's made himself out to be.

Mobster is probably a reasonable analogy - Although he reminds me more of the pre-Prohibition senators and governors of the US, who were more or less the top level of organised crime in the US.

 


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The furore over the inauguration numbers (both spectators and viewing figures) is worrying.

It really doesn't matter how many came and saw his inauguration. It shouldn't make any difference to him.

It is easily explainable (poor weather conditions, his supporter bases are further away from DC, the financial problems his supporters face as a result of the Obama administration poor management of the economy mean money is too tight). But to get his spokesperson to lie about it in ways which are so easily disproveable is just odd.

And it discredits him. I'm sure some of his core supporters will lap it up. And refuse to believe photographic evidence or officially produced stats. But the majority of Americans won't. And the majority of the Houses won't and will start to distance themselves.

He's just a bit of a prat because he is so focused on popularity.

 


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Hoof Hearted 24 Jan 17 11.26am

He got inaugurated on Friday afternoon.

It's effectively the 2nd working day of his administration and already he's making a difference to US workers by overturning Obama's trade deal.

He will see off all his detractors and as he says "Make America Great Again".

I bought some USA based funds a while back which are doing nicely and will continue to do so whilst Trump's actions stimulate the US economy.

You can moan and bitch about him, ruing the day he replaced Obama but history will record that he will be a more effective President for trade and working conditions for US citizens than Obama ever was.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 24 Jan 17 1.19pm

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

He got inaugurated on Friday afternoon.

It's effectively the 2nd working day of his administration and already he's making a difference to US workers by overturning Obama's trade deal.

He will see off all his detractors and as he says "Make America Great Again".

I bought some USA based funds a while back which are doing nicely and will continue to do so whilst Trump's actions stimulate the US economy.

You can moan and bitch about him, ruing the day he replaced Obama but history will record that he will be a more effective President for trade and working conditions for US citizens than Obama ever was.

I quite liked his proposal for increased import tariffs and duties on US companies that have migrated manufacturing and production outside of the US. It might be a bit late, but admirable, if it actually happens (especially if they apply it retrospectively to companies that claim to be American, but have effectively offshored everything).

 


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