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 PalazioVecchio  south pole 04 Sep 19 9.47pm |
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the US vice-president seems to have told the Taoiseach where he can shove it with all his stalling and bullying tactics.
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Hrolf The Ganger  04 Sep 19 9.48pm |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
FYI I’m keen to leave, but with a deal I just absolutely loathe that phrase You will get over it.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 04 Sep 19 9.57pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
What a load of crap. Delaying Brexit again is a shameful misuse of the Parliamentary system. I don't know if you have actually been listening to the debates but no-one is discussing remaining, and very few holding a confirmatory referendum. This is ALL about HOW we leave and not at all about IF we leave. Seeking to try to force through one version of leave against the will of Parliament is the only system abuse going on and I am delighted to see Parliament coming together to do it's job. Let's hope this is only the start and the follow up will be a genuine government of national unity which will sit for enough time to sort out this mess once and for all.
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| Stirlingsays 04 Sep 19 10.00pm |
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The only chance those that want a deal with the EU have of getting one is by leaving under the 'no deal' banner. It is only once that occurs that the EU will actually offer one. At the moment they are happy to let their mixture of 'useful idiots' and fifth columnists try to ensure that remain becomes the default via the no agreement principle.....which they hope leads to eventual acceptance via exhaustion. There was a chance to leave with a deal.....The parliament had three votes on it and rejected all three. That was the end of a deal. Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Sep 2019 10.01pm)
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 04 Sep 19 10.06pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
More bulls***. You and all the other Remainers who want to avoid Brexit at all costs have revealed yourselves to have no concern for this country's interests at all. You are 100% wrong. My only concern is for the country's interests. My own needs are relatively modest and unlikely to be much impacted. I prefer to Remain and always have, but if the will of our Parliament is to respect a referendum result to leave then I defer to their role. I also agree with them that accepting any avoidable situation which harms us must not be tolerated, so restraining the government from it's present course is a duty.
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| samprior Hamburg 04 Sep 19 10.10pm |
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Despite all of the so called undemocratic things going on in parliament I think the way that this entire mess has played out over the last 3 years has been a true representation of 'the will of the people'...and I mean all of them (well those that were eligible and decided to vote that day). A 52-48 split however you want to dress it up just reflects a nation that for certain is not united in knowing what it wants and where it wants to go. As sad as it is, the indecisiveness and bickering routinely displayed in parliament is a clear reflection of the result whether we like it or not. I hold absolutely no faith or trust in the powers that be to sort this mess out ...so we might us well start doing things ourselves, rediscover our common ground and look after each other along the way. If we don't we will just have to change the saying to Divided we stand. United we fall. That's my two cents worth anyway.
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Jimenez  SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 04 Sep 19 10.21pm |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
‘Your’ Correct first time!!
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| SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 04 Sep 19 10.23pm |
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Originally posted by samprior
Despite all of the so called undemocratic things going on in parliament I think the way that this entire mess has played out over the last 3 years has been a true representation of 'the will of the people'...and I mean all of them (well those that were eligible and decided to vote that day). A 52-48 split however you want to dress it up just reflects a nation that for certain is not united in knowing what it wants and where it wants to go. As sad as it is, the indecisiveness and bickering routinely displayed in parliament is a clear reflection of the result whether we like it or not. I hold absolutely no faith or trust in the powers that be to sort this mess out ...so we might us well start doing things ourselves, rediscover our common ground and look after each other along the way. If we don't we will just have to change the saying to Divided we stand. United we fall. That's my two cents worth anyway. Good post
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tome  Inner Tantalus Time. 04 Sep 19 10.44pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
More bulls***. You and all the other Remainers who want to avoid Brexit at all costs have revealed yourselves to have no concern for this country's interests at all. The extent of your binary vision seems almost pathological. Just yelling 'bulls***' is no argument. I really struggle with this idea that leaving with no deal is somehow in the country's interests. How do you think leaving the world's largest single market will help?
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| tome Inner Tantalus Time. 04 Sep 19 10.48pm |
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Originally posted by samprior
Despite all of the so called undemocratic things going on in parliament I think the way that this entire mess has played out over the last 3 years has been a true representation of 'the will of the people'...and I mean all of them (well those that were eligible and decided to vote that day). A 52-48 split however you want to dress it up just reflects a nation that for certain is not united in knowing what it wants and where it wants to go. As sad as it is, the indecisiveness and bickering routinely displayed in parliament is a clear reflection of the result whether we like it or not. I hold absolutely no faith or trust in the powers that be to sort this mess out ...so we might us well start doing things ourselves, rediscover our common ground and look after each other along the way. If we don't we will just have to change the saying to Divided we stand. United we fall. That's my two cents worth anyway. Agreed. It's a sad indictment of politics and public debate at the moment that so many peole are just shouting rather than engaged in reasonable debate. The way the vote has become a form of identification 'leavers' and 'remainers' is pretty grim too. It reduces everything to black adn white when most of us know reality is mostly somewhere in between.
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| dynamicdick Dormansland 04 Sep 19 11.26pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I don't know if you have actually been listening to the debates but no-one is discussing remaining, and very few holding a confirmatory referendum. This is ALL about HOW we leave and not at all about IF we leave. Seeking to try to force through one version of leave against the will of Parliament is the only system abuse going on and I am delighted to see Parliament coming together to do it's job. Let's hope this is only the start and the follow up will be a genuine government of national unity which will sit for enough time to sort out this mess once and for all. Complete rubbish, Parliaments actions are all about No Brexit in the guise of No Deal. Complete disregard of the original 2016 outcome. The Government should be the only ones making the decisions NOT Parliament for the very reason that the majority don’t want Brexit at any cost.
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| deleted user 04 Sep 19 11.40pm |
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Originally posted by tome
Agreed. It's a sad indictment of politics and public debate at the moment that so many peole are just shouting rather than engaged in reasonable debate. There's something to be said for that. It does rather minimise what people are all about. If anything over the last three years I've gained a lot of respect for those able to present their political opinions in a dignified and balanced way, and just let their vote do the talking. People. Politics. That order.
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