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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 17 May 20 9.46am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Boris has made a rod for his own back. He scared the country into the lockdown and now the unions are using his own words against him as he tries to relax it.

We can never be 100% safe and the Teacher's and Transport Unions in particular are being difficult I hope their members are more practical though.

A friend's son is a teacher in Islington he is doing 2 days a week at the school. The school gave up teaching online as apparently the parents can't afford the equipment. This seems to be replicated across the country in the state sector mainly. The private schools are all working online I guess because the families already have home computers.

Some teachers are doing a full week but most are either part time or no time and the kids are suffering. The unions needs to stop politicking and start discussing practical measures to ensure the schools open and are as safe as possible.

As for the transport unions most of their members spend their day in a train / tube / bus cab separated from the public. I would remind them that this is a golden opportunity to show the public how vital they are to getting the country back to work but if they want to play silly buggers don't expect much public sympathy when the subject of driverless transport comes up.

As for Mayor Khan I think he will get away with his appalling handling of TFL by blaming the virus and the government. A pity because he needs the golden boot up the backside by the voters.


Secondary schooling....like many other situations....is a classic case in point. It illustrates the sheer impracticality of social distancing in the real working world.

There are no two ways about it.....You either go back to normal or you keep the schools shut.

It's true for many other situations. Some jobs can socially distance but others are just impractical.

As for the unions....don't get me started.

As for Khan, it matters little how bad he is. He will be reelected due to demographics.


Edited by Stirlingsays (17 May 2020 9.50am)

 


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Originally posted by Jimenez

Stick to talking about what you know? If you seriously think this clown has done or is doing a good job then I seriously question your judgement of character.
He frequently asks people to stick to social distance, but drives 16 miles to take a walk in the park, the homelessness is rampant.
Even after Trumpo was calling out people this clown was telling people it was safe to go out.
Incidentally that same Information was given out by NYCs Commissioner on Health who was also telling people it was no worse than the Flu & safe to go out.
She also insulted the whole of the NYPD by stating she didn't 'Give a Rats ass' about police officers given masks.
I was never a great fan of Bloomberg but seriously wish he was running the show at the moment

You have your opinions and I mine. I haven't noticed any reticence on your behalf at restricting your comments to only that you can see from your own front window. I'll leave it there!

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Secondary schooling....like many other situations....is a classic case in point. It illustrates the sheer impracticality of social distancing in the real working world.

There are no two ways about it.....You either go back to normal or you keep the schools shut.

It's true for many other situations. Some jobs can socially distance but others are just impractical.

As for the unions....don't get me started.

As for Khan, it matters little how bad he is. He will be reelected due to demographics.


Edited by Stirlingsays (17 May 2020 9.50am)

A neighbour is a governor of a local private school. They are still asking the parents to pay fees during the lockdown and so had to provide online education and allow some kids to attend in certain circumstances. I suspect the private schools will be keener to get back because of the economics they will have to re-assure parents I'm guessing they will come up with practical safeguards quicker than the state sector.

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 17 May 20 10.21am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

A neighbour is a governor of a local private school. They are still asking the parents to pay fees during the lockdown and so had to provide online education and allow some kids to attend in certain circumstances. I suspect the private schools will be keener to get back because of the economics they will have to re-assure parents I'm guessing they will come up with practical safeguards quicker than the state sector.

Private schools will be fine for the reasons you stated. Still, while it's an important section, it's a small percentage of society.

It's going to be fascinating watching Boris and co struggle with the unions......Like you said, they scared the scareable half to death and now they are going to reap the implications of that.

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I have a friend whose wife teaches overseas students online. She noticed a drop off in attendance since the, almost exclusively, male students wouldn’t take part in Skype / Zoom / whatever interactions because they haven’t been able to get to the hairdressers and so didn’t want to be seen. Last week she got made redundant.

 

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The Andrew Marr programme this morning had some interesting and potentially important new information (at least to me) about how the virus is spread by children.

This came from the WHO's chief scientist Soumya Swaminathan who said that although children can catch the virus from adults their capacity to spread it seems very low. The only outbreaks in schools seem to have been introduced by adults. We already know that the impact on children themselves is almost always mild to non-existent.

This suggests to me that opening schools can be safely managed rather more easily than appeared to be the case. If the children cannot transmit it to others, including their classmates and family members, then the controls need to be on the adults in the schools. Testing them and making sure those bringing the children to school observe social distancing, ought to minimise any risks.

If true then I hope that those objecting can be reassured and a staged reopening progress quite soon.

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

The Andrew Marr programme this morning had some interesting and potentially important new information (at least to me) about how the virus is spread by children.

This came from the WHO's chief scientist Soumya Swaminathan who said that although children can catch the virus from adults their capacity to spread it seems very low. The only outbreaks in schools seem to have been introduced by adults. We already know that the impact on children themselves is almost always mild to non-existent.

This suggests to me that opening schools can be safely managed rather more easily than appeared to be the case. If the children cannot transmit it to others, including their classmates and family members, then the controls need to be on the adults in the schools. Testing them and making sure those bringing the children to school observe social distancing, ought to minimise any risks.

If true then I hope that those objecting can be reassured and a staged reopening progress quite soon.

Some expert the other day said that teachers were more at risk in the staff room than the classroom.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 17 May 20 10.43am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Private schools will be find for the reasons you stated. Still, while it's an important section, it's a small percentage of society.

It's going to be fascinating watching Boris and co struggle with the unions......Like you said, they scared the scareable half to death and now they are going to reap the implications of that.

The unions and councils in Liverpool, Manchester and huddersf***ingfield or wherever it is are prepared to cause thousands to lose their private sector jobs and companies to close because they can’t take their kids back to school to bring down the government. Some true colours are coming out now.

Trouble is there’s plenty of uninformed parents out there whose knowledge of this comes from Piers Morgan on morning itv and Philip Schofield on itv This Morning and some who won’t let a speck of dust into the house so are in meltdown already.

What a country of spineless pathetic people we’ve become. I always said social distancing was going to be difficult or impossible in some jobs but I also said lockdown couldn’t go on everywhere.

War spirit? Like WWII? Don’t make me laugh.

 


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Originally posted by Badger11

Boris has made a rod for his own back. He scared the country into the lockdown and now the unions are using his own words against him as he tries to relax it.

We can never be 100% safe and the Teacher's and Transport Unions in particular are being difficult I hope their members are more practical though.

A friend's son is a teacher in Islington he is doing 2 days a week at the school. The school gave up teaching online as apparently the parents can't afford the equipment. This seems to be replicated across the country in the state sector mainly. The private schools are all working online I guess because the families already have home computers.

Some teachers are doing a full week but most are either part time or no time and the kids are suffering. The unions needs to stop politicking and start discussing practical measures to ensure the schools open and are as safe as possible.

As for the transport unions most of their members spend their day in a train / tube / bus cab separated from the public. I would remind them that this is a golden opportunity to show the public how vital they are to getting the country back to work but if they want to play silly buggers don't expect much public sympathy when the subject of driverless transport comes up.

As for Mayor Khan I think he will get away with his appalling handling of TFL by blaming the virus and the government. A pity because he needs the golden boot up the backside by the voters.

Apparently cant afford the equipment! This is an excuse to try to get new stuff. A smart phone and the internet is all they need and 99% of kids or the household has one and it. Along with a pen or pencil. What a load of bollox. Lazy kids,lazy parents. A spoilt,entitled society is what we have created and live in. f***ing shameful.

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

The Andrew Marr programme this morning had some interesting and potentially important new information (at least to me) about how the virus is spread by children.

This came from the WHO's chief scientist Soumya Swaminathan who said that although children can catch the virus from adults their capacity to spread it seems very low. The only outbreaks in schools seem to have been introduced by adults. We already know that the impact on children themselves is almost always mild to non-existent.

This suggests to me that opening schools can be safely managed rather more easily than appeared to be the case. If the children cannot transmit it to others, including their classmates and family members, then the controls need to be on the adults in the schools. Testing them and making sure those bringing the children to school observe social distancing, ought to minimise any risks.

If true then I hope that those objecting can be reassured and a staged reopening progress quite soon.

Laughable.

Does the virus only start to be passed from the child's "infection" once that child hits puberty?

The WHO are coming up with ingenious ways of keeping us indoors.

 

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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

The unions and councils in Liverpool, Manchester and huddersf***ingfield or wherever it is are prepared to cause thousands to lose their private sector jobs and companies to close because they can’t take their kids back to school to bring down the government. Some true colours are coming out now.

Trouble is there’s plenty of uninformed parents out there whose knowledge of this comes from Piers Morgan on morning itv and Philip Schofield on itv This Morning and some who won’t let a speck of dust into the house so are in meltdown already.

What a country of spineless pathetic people we’ve become. I always said social distancing was going to be difficult or impossible in some jobs but I also said lockdown couldn’t go on everywhere.

War spirit? Like WWII? Don’t make me laugh.

Couldn't agree more mate.

The stiff upper lip went generations ago.

If we had the Titanic today.....you just know how it would go.

 


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Originally posted by Lombardinho

Laughable.

Does the virus only start to be passed from the child's "infection" once that child hits puberty?

The WHO are coming up with ingenious ways of keeping us indoors.

High school kids socialise after school and on the way home. Primary and juniors don’t since everyone kid is now picked up by a parent compared to decades past when kids walked home with friends. This was my thought on why and it turns out it is why.

 


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