OK so a few politically active protestors made a fuss in 2016 which I either didn't notice or had forgotten about. Big deal. I am sure there were plenty of weird political protests somewhere in the UK that year that outnumbered them which have also been forgotten. Maybe by UKIP!

It just isn't the point. "Black Lives Matter" as a widespread popular idea didn't enter the public consciousness until last year.

This attempt to tarnish the efforts of the players, and many others, by seeking to associate them with political activism is doing many people who only wish to demonstrate that they care a great disservice. Those who participate in seeking to do the tarnishing lay their own motivations open to serious questioning.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Once again you are spouting desperate misrepresentation. The truth is all I seek.

In case you missed it, I am not apologising for anyone or anything. I am offering rational explanations as to why these actions might have been taken. I condemn criminals and violence. I don't condemn the innocent bystanders. People are always innocent until proven guilty in my world. Maybe not though in yours? Just as they aren't in Trump's.

That IS the truth. Though I doubt whether you will even begin to understand it, let alone accept it.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

What a strange response.

You stated that BLM didn't exist in this country before last year. The fact that you didn't "notice" or had forgotten the BLM protests in 2016 (which you seem to think was just a "weird political protest" back then) and that it didn't become "popular" until 2020 to you isn't a "big deal". I agree actually. It wasn't a big deal to you until it became popular it seems. Why is that? The cause as stated in that article from the BBC (a trusted source?) was very much anti-racism yet you and others who were not directly caught up in the "weird political protests" chose to ignore or forget it.

And why you brought UKIP into it can only be pondered upon.

And if you think that I am guilty of "This attempt to tarnish the efforts of the players, and many others, by seeking to associate them with political activism is doing many people who only wish to demonstrate that they care a great disservice" then you are, not for the first time, wrong. I'm just pointing out that the fact that you either didn't notice or had forgotten the BLM protests of 2016 doesn't mean that they didn't have resonance then or that it didn't exist before the death of George Floyd in this country.

There's nothing wrong with admitting one's wrong occasionally. In fact, it's a strong trait.

Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.

So the clenched raised fist that so many of these footballers display when taking the knee just means that they want to go to the bathroom, and has nothing to do with the universally accepted symbolism of the 'black power' movement I take it?

A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

Your last paragraph is confusing “ we ought to speaking I& groups of criminals “ you mean the groups of pakistani men gang raping white girls?
I agree about alienating whole communities but let’s not forget many in those communities assisted in the covering up of the heinous crimes. Do you honestly believe that a Muslim wife, if she suspected her husband, would “out him” ? If you do I give up

Am I the only one here who believes that this site would be so much better without Wisbech?

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