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View Seagles's Profile Seagles Flag Croydon 25 Mar 21 9.38am Send a Private Message to Seagles Add Seagles as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Once again, Watson literally owns a media company.

So you are just being literal......If not I have to question your idea that you think Watson is criticising right wing media here or himself.

And again...and I'm having to repeat myself here.....There are multiple videos on this topic that have been made on this by Watson. Do you seriously think these five examples are it?

The leftist media are anti white and look to emphasize white crimes while downplaying non white crimes.

Fortunately HOL isnt a right wing sounding board, I doubt many of your peers on here will be as familiar with watson as you appear to be so posting his video of cherry picked examples and hypocritical conclusion is your mistake not mine.

I have critiqued the video you linked to and stand by my criticisms. As you yourself pointed out the video itself suffers from the same problems that all short form media does.

I've noticed that you cant let a post go unanswered so I'm going to leave this one here. Until next time

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 25 Mar 21 9.50am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Seagles

Fortunately HOL isnt a right wing sounding board, I doubt many of your peers on here will be as familiar with watson as you appear to be so posting his video of cherry picked examples and hypocritical conclusion is your mistake not mine.

I have critiqued the video you linked to and stand by my criticisms. As you yourself pointed out the video itself suffers from the same problems that all short form media does.

I've noticed that you cant let a post go unanswered so I'm going to leave this one here. Until next time


I stand by everything Watson said in the video because it's true and through all your and Dan's bleating you couldn't contest the truth of anything he highlighted.

All you want to do is 'poison the well' because it's stuff you don't want said.

 


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View Seagles's Profile Seagles Flag Croydon 25 Mar 21 11.02am Send a Private Message to Seagles Add Seagles as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


I stand by everything Watson said in the video because it's true and through all your and Dan's bleating you couldn't contest the truth of anything he highlighted.

All you want to do is 'poison the well' because it's stuff you don't want said.

Urgh ok I'll rise to the bait.

For the sake of reason let's assume the articles and stats he uses are true. That's not the issue.

The issue is that he has cherry picked a handful of arguments that fit his narrative, but nothing to suggest whether these articles are representative of the wider media. He offers no stats about what issues are reported and what issues aren't and no evidence to back up his assertion that "the media" is racist against white people other than a handful of selectively chosen stories. So it doesn't matter if the stories are true or not as they dont back up his conclusions. Who knows he might be right, but he certainly hasn't demonstrated it here.

He demonises the articles for tarnishing a whole group of people - white people - based on the actions of just a few white people. Then he tarnishes a whole group of people - the media - based on the actions of just a few of them. That, my friend, is the very definition of hypocrisy.

Sorry if I'm repeating myself but nothing has changed since my first post so theres nothing new to add!

 

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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 25 Mar 21 11.27am Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by Seagles

Urgh ok I'll rise to the bait.

For the sake of reason let's assume the articles and stats he uses are true. That's not the issue.

The issue is that he has cherry picked a handful of arguments that fit his narrative, but nothing to suggest whether these articles are representative of the wider media. He offers no stats about what issues are reported and what issues aren't and no evidence to back up his assertion that "the media" is racist against white people other than a handful of selectively chosen stories. So it doesn't matter if the stories are true or not as they dont back up his conclusions. Who knows he might be right, but he certainly hasn't demonstrated it here.

He demonises the articles for tarnishing a whole group of people - white people - based on the actions of just a few white people. Then he tarnishes a whole group of people - the media - based on the actions of just a few of them. That, my friend, is the very definition of hypocrisy.

Sorry if I'm repeating myself but nothing has changed since my first post so theres nothing new to add!

What, you mean like no one else does? Such actions are common place amongst any side of an argument to prove a point.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 25 Mar 21 11.31am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Seagles

Urgh ok I'll rise to the bait.

For the sake of reason let's assume the articles and stats he uses are true. That's not the issue.

The issue is that he has cherry picked a handful of arguments that fit his narrative, but nothing to suggest whether these articles are representative of the wider media. He offers no stats about what issues are reported and what issues aren't and no evidence to back up his assertion that "the media" is racist against white people other than a handful of selectively chosen stories. So it doesn't matter if the stories are true or not as they dont back up his conclusions. Who knows he might be right, but he certainly hasn't demonstrated it here.

He demonises the articles for tarnishing a whole group of people - white people - based on the actions of just a few white people. Then he tarnishes a whole group of people - the media - based on the actions of just a few of them. That, my friend, is the very definition of hypocrisy.

Sorry if I'm repeating myself but nothing has changed since my first post so theres nothing new to add!

I've answered both of your points. You just repeat them like the reply never happened.

Ok, I will repeat my replies:

Once again, Watson is obviously referring to leftist media, which is anti white. He isn't for example showing examples of anti white right wing media because it, in the main, doesn't really exist.

If you look at other videos he has presented far more than just the examples you complain about on this.

Watson is showing collected evidence of anti white media, he isn't required to meet some criteria bar that you have decided for him.

I'll urge anyone reading this to watch his video and make your own mind up on the validity of what it contains.

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Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Mar 2021 11.34am)

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 25 Mar 21 12.30pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Seagles

Urgh ok I'll rise to the bait.

For the sake of reason let's assume the articles and stats he uses are true. That's not the issue.

The issue is that he has cherry picked a handful of arguments that fit his narrative, but nothing to suggest whether these articles are representative of the wider media. He offers no stats about what issues are reported and what issues aren't and no evidence to back up his assertion that "the media" is racist against white people other than a handful of selectively chosen stories. So it doesn't matter if the stories are true or not as they dont back up his conclusions. Who knows he might be right, but he certainly hasn't demonstrated it here.

He demonises the articles for tarnishing a whole group of people - white people - based on the actions of just a few white people. Then he tarnishes a whole group of people - the media - based on the actions of just a few of them. That, my friend, is the very definition of hypocrisy.

Sorry if I'm repeating myself but nothing has changed since my first post so theres nothing new to add!

So how many more examples than a handful do you need to make it 'beleiveable'. Say 10 or 20 or 50.
If your not enough without the medal then you will never be enough with it! Quote from cool runnings.
That is politics I suppose. Red or blue; ironic really bearing in mind our team

 

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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 25 Mar 21 12.45pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Seagles

Fortunately HOL isnt a right wing sounding board, I doubt many of your peers on here will be as familiar with watson as you appear to be so posting his video of cherry picked examples and hypocritical conclusion is your mistake not mine.

I have critiqued the video you linked to and stand by my criticisms. As you yourself pointed out the video itself suffers from the same problems that all short form media does.

I've noticed that you cant let a post go unanswered so I'm going to leave this one here. Until next time

You’ve not been here long have you...?

....oh, maybe long enough.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 25 Mar 21 1.27pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

You’ve not been here long have you...?

....oh, maybe long enough.

Grumpy.

Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Mar 2021 1.28pm)

 


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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 25 Mar 21 1.29pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Grumpy.

Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Mar 2021 1.28pm)

You can be Dopey and Hrolf can be Happy

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 25 Mar 21 1.33pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

You can be Dopey and Hrolf can be Happy

Quite a good troll...bitchy but I like it.

 


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Originally posted by DanH

You can be Dopey and Hrolf can be Happy

Hello Smug Dan.
Thanks for giving me a mention last night (this thread 9.33pm).
Wow.
When do I get my trophy?

 

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Originally posted by cryrst

So how many more examples than a handful do you need to make it 'beleiveable'. Say 10 or 20 or 50.
If your not enough without the medal then you will never be enough with it! Quote from cool runnings.
That is politics I suppose. Red or blue; ironic really bearing in mind our team

A gold medal is a wonderful thing - I like the bit about red or blue

It doesn't matter how many examples you use, examples should be used as supporting evidence for an argument not the basis of it. To prove his point he needs to show what the examples actually mean. If he was able to show that, for example, "75% of cops killing blacks is reported but only 25% of cops killing whites is reported" or something along those lines - then he would have a case. Instead what he has is some stories about blacks being killed by cops, 2 of which were initially mis reported, and a load of hyperbole. And shouting - the fringe media love to shout!

 

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