Totally on the fence regarding the HF, but while its currently now to slag them off, please remember at times our home support has been painfully bad.
they have created a lot of noise & presence, especially during their earlier days when people complaining about them were no doubt sitting on their hands moaning & doing F all.
They are a pain in the arse currently & I did find the 'display' vs Arsenal quite s***e & cringe, but dont forget previous positive stuff.
Up the Palace !

Kids,tired of being bothered by your pesky parents?
Then leave home, get a job & pay your own bills, while you still know everything.

Perhaps if the HF stopped wearing the black " I'm in a gang" uniform & wore club colours like most then wouldn't need flags as would be quite colourful without them, like the Bayan Munich game the other night. A few flags at one end which didn't add much, but the fact that nearly everyone was in club colours made a big difference & was noticeable

Wow it’s been a few months since I came on to look at what’s going on. The last time I did it was all about our little friends dressed in black.

It’s very simply a case of”We told you so” It didn’t take a genius to work out that the move from B to was never going to improve the atmosphere.

When the move was very first muted, I said that the good sound generated was assisted by the low hanging Arthur roof which In turn helped the volume travel around the stadium.

By moving to Block E it simply dissipates into a concrete overhang then into the air.

I still stand in B and truthfully apart from the drum we rarely hear them sing.

Getting back to this topic. Personally I wouldn’t pay into anyone’s account as you cannot be certain what that money is being used for. The only time I did was for the brilliant 2 cocks tifo which involved the entire Holmesdale.

I honestly think the group has been in a very steep decline since those days.

With them it’s always been a case if you don’t play our game I’m taking the ball home.

Not to forget the years that the Dutch have been turning whole sides of whatever stadium they play in orange - always an amazing sight.

A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

Try telling that to the hundreds of established fans that sat there, wanted to remain there and were forced by the club to move.

I agree that there hasn't been a great deal of improvement with the move - yet.

My guess is that the long term vision was/is that once the new stand is built most people will want to move into it, which will free up loads of seats. At the same time, the lower tier will (hopefully) become a safe standing area where those who want to sing for 90 minutes will congregate around the HF and expand the section.

Personally, I love what they do on the whole. I haven't been to many games over the past couple of seasons - mainly due to a lack of interest/mid table boredom - but I'll always make an effort to get to the cup games to be in/near the HF. Makes the whole experience much more enjoyable for me. The atmosphere in the rest of the ground is pretty drab, so would rather watch at home and save the money.

Must say the banner unveiled at Arsenal was poor. It didn't represent the view of most Palace fans and was an embarrassment. My only gripe is that they seem to consider themselves the voice of all Palace fans.