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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 02 Aug 17 8.16pm

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A major breakthrough in disease prevention which shows a positive side to this area of science. But is a step towards babies to order or even dystopianly (made up word of the day) humans engineered to be cannon fodder for armies? Was Huxley prescient when he wrote of 'hatcheries and conditioning centres ' that churned out babies for different purposes?

Thoughts?

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Good thread.

We are on the cusp of these things and like all technologies they will have good and not so good applications.

Genetic engineering for babies is coming and being against it is a bit like King Canute and the waves....it's going to happen.

Sexuality for example, from a genetic standpoint most families are going to choose heterosexual and its base level when this comes online.....It's a way off but there you go. I have no doubt that initially they will try to prevent it....But that's hugely controversial as well once the technology is there.

This said, I see heterosexuality going as well....At some point in the future sexuality becomes a bit pointless.....Get those orgasms on mental tap.

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.TUX. Flag 02 Aug 17 9.24pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

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A major breakthrough in disease prevention which shows a positive side to this area of science. But is a step towards babies to order or even dystopianly (made up word of the day) humans engineered to be cannon fodder for armies? Was Huxley prescient when he wrote of 'hatcheries and conditioning centres ' that churned out babies for different purposes?

Thoughts?

Edited by nickgusset (02 Aug 2017 8.19pm)

Huxley (along with many others) pretty much predicted the future for the human race.
I wish more could see it............but life hasn't been 'engineered' that way.

 


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Originally posted by nickgusset

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A major breakthrough in disease prevention which shows a positive side to this area of science. But is a step towards babies to order or even dystopianly (made up word of the day) humans engineered to be cannon fodder for armies? Was Huxley prescient when he wrote of 'hatcheries and conditioning centres ' that churned out babies for different purposes?

Thoughts?

Edited by nickgusset (02 Aug 2017 8.19pm)

You have only just thought about this?

It's coming whether we like it or not, providing humans exist long enough.
If some c*** can make money out of it or use it to kill people, it will happen in some form.

 

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Good thread.

We are on the cusp of these things and like all technologies they will have good and not so good applications.

Genetic engineering for babies is coming and being against it is a bit like King Canute and the waves....it's going to happen.

Sexuality for example, from a genetic standpoint most families are going to choose heterosexual and its base level when this comes online.....It's a way off but there you go. I have no doubt that initially they will try to prevent it....But that's hugely controversial as well once the technology is there.

This said, I see heterosexuality going as well....At some point in the future sexuality becomes a bit pointless.....Get those orgasms on mental tap.


Is sexual orientation really in our genes? Genuine question. If true, we need to isolate the gene that makes people support a far away big club...and Brighton.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 02 Aug 17 10.34pm

To Hrolf. No I have not 'just thought about it'. f***ing hell can't you join any thread without a f***ing dig. Standard.

You see Hrolf, in general talk we tend to debate things currently in the news. This breakthrough was announced today hence the thread. It's not difficult to understand. Really it isn't.

I said to myself before I started this thread that homo/heterosexual would be mentioned within 5 posts.

What does worry me is unintended consequences. What will the pitfalls be? Will people start to look the same? What if something happens to these 'frankenstein' babies when they reach 50?


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God...I just love the knockabout of General Talk.

 


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Originally posted by Ray in Houston


Is sexual orientation really in our genes? Genuine question. If true, we need to isolate the gene that makes people support a far away big club...and Brighton.

Good point...lets get on it.

Seriously though, it's an excellent question. I had a gay mate through university and we talked about this a bit and both looked into the research on it. Also there's been some good discussion stuff on here about it.

I think a possible answer is that....like the genes for intelligence, sexuality is complex. It's not the case of flipping a couple of things and bob's your uncle.

But it most definitely has a genetic grounding. That isn't to say that environment doesn't play a larger or lesser role in affecting it.....Someone might be straight all their life but a pop into prison for an extended period...with its restricted opportunities....Well, for some of them...well bob suddenly starts to look a lot more attractive.

But I think in the most part, which gender you want to fcuk or fall in romantic love with is mostly set for the majority.

Genes affect behaviour.
Environment affects genes....some people more than others.
The balance between both is debated from fifty fifty to eighty genes, environment twenty.

Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Aug 2017 11.05am)

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Genes affect behaviour.
Environment affects genes....some people more than others.
The balance between both is debated from fifty fifty to eighty genes, environment twenty.

Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Aug 2017 10.48pm)

You are close to expressing "epigenetics". The genetic code isn't like a checklist that leads to a particular organism.

It is more like a set of strategies that let the organism thrive in a variety of different environments, by developing in different ways. So different environments produce phenotypes from the same genetic material.

 

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Originally posted by thebob

You are close to expressing "epigenetics". The genetic code isn't like a checklist that leads to a particular organism.

It is more like a set of strategies that let the organism thrive in a variety of different environments, by developing in different ways. So different environments produce phenotypes from the same genetic material.


I think the amount the environment affects genes depends upon those genes susceptibility to it.....for example, early famine affects the diseases you get later on.

How much a normal run of the mill environment affects who you want to bonk however.....I'd say your sexuality here is pretty much set in those circumstances for a majority.

Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Aug 2017 11.06pm)

 


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Originally posted by nickgusset

To Hrolf. No I have not 'just thought about it'. f***ing hell can't you join any thread without a f***ing dig. Standard.

You see Hrolf, in general talk we tend to debate things currently in the news. This breakthrough was announced today hence the thread. It's not difficult to understand. Really it isn't.

I said to myself before I started this thread that homo/heterosexual would be mentioned within 5 posts.

What does worry me is unintended consequences. What will the pitfalls be? Will people start to look the same? What if something happens to these 'frankenstein' babies when they reach 50?


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