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|  Spiderman  Horsham 30 Jan 19 3.19pm |    | 
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| Originally posted by Pussay Patrol 
 Oh i see, so the message is, tear up your ehic card and go to a bank and pay for it? So that's 7 euros for visa entry, loss of free access to 27 other countries, longer queues at passport control and no health care? Loving this new freedom Think it has already been agreed that we will have visa free access for up to 90 days. Bang goes that argument. Please explain why longer queues at passport control? Where are you talking about? 
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|  Spiderman  Horsham 30 Jan 19 3.21pm |    | 
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| Originally posted by Midlands Eagle 
 Where does this longer queues at passport control come from? When I travel abroad the passport control takes my passport and swipes it. What more are they going to do that will entail long queues? Absolutely nothing. They will do nothing that may jeopardise the tourism industry. Project Fear again I am afraid 
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|  Stirlingsays  30 Jan 19 3.26pm |      | 
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| Originally posted by steve1984 
 Small(er) = Weak(er) / Big(ger) = Strong(er). There are many kinds of weakness. One of them is the inability to tell the difference between relative strength and weakness. 
 
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| Pussay Patrol  30 Jan 19 4.07pm | |
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| Originally posted by Spiderman 
 I always take out travel insurance, as everyone should. As I said, make these reciprocal and the NHS will save thousands (possibly millions) that's what I care about, with your political views thought this would sit well with you, unless of course you live abroad and your views are "all about you"!! The point is you lose something tangible but what do you get in return? If there is belief or, as I suppose is common now, the buying into sensationalised tabloid stories about health tourism, then that is something the government should worry about, people like us shouldn't really give a toss 
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|  steeleye20  Croydon 30 Jan 19 4.33pm |    | 
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| Originally posted by Pussay Patrol 
 The point is you lose something tangible but what do you get in return? If there is belief or, as I suppose is common now, the buying into sensationalised tabloid stories about health tourism, then that is something the government should worry about, people like us shouldn't really give a toss That is what Brexit is, giving away everything gained over forty years for nothing at all. Isolation and continued austerity are all the UK has to look forward too. Bexit is not about the good of the country but the conservative party, as we have seen, and Europe is realising. The conservative party lives to have conflict with Europe, it is their 'modus operandi', in this way they can avoid governing the country with the population focussed on Brexit. The word of the UK PM is meaningless, as is her deal in our name, not worth a w**k, the UK parliament an absurdity just look at them changing their minds on the deal just to keep the tories 'united'. 
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|  Midlands Eagle  30 Jan 19 4.43pm |    | 
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| Originally posted by steeleye20 
 
 The conservative party lives to have conflict with Europe, it is their 'modus operandi' 
 
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|  chris123  hove actually 30 Jan 19 4.45pm |    | 
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| Originally posted by steeleye20 
 That is what Brexit is, giving away everything gained over forty years for nothing at all. Isolation and continued austerity are all the UK has to look forward too. Bexit is not about the good of the country but the conservative party, as we have seen, and Europe is realising. The conservative party lives to have conflict with Europe, it is their 'modus operandi', in this way they can avoid governing the country with the population focussed on Brexit. The word of the UK PM is meaningless, as is her deal in our name, not worth a w**k, the UK parliament an absurdity just look at them changing their minds on the deal just to keep the tories 'united'. The animal changed and it's not party driven, there were as many reasons as those who voted - the smart remain and the idiots who voted to leave. With respect - all the time you make it party political you miss the point, it's cross bench. 
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|  steeleye20  Croydon 30 Jan 19 4.49pm |    | 
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| Originally posted by chris123 
 The animal changed and it's not party driven, there were as many reasons as those who voted - the smart remain and the idiots who voted to leave. With respect - all the time you make it party political you miss the point, it's cross bench. No, pro-brexit labour places will be the big losers, wasn't it always that way. 
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|  Stirlingsays  30 Jan 19 4.51pm |      | 
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| Originally posted by Midlands Eagle 
 
 All gammon to them. 
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|  Badger11  Beckenham 30 Jan 19 4.56pm |    | 
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| Apparently the EU are standing firm on refusing to negotiate around the Irish border issue. It's their right of course but I do not understand their position. If we leave without a deal in 2 months how are they going to deal with the major customs issue that they believe exists (I don't)? As I see it the EU has 3 choices: 1. No deal and they have to handle the fallout in 2 months. Maybe I am missing something but I would have though options 2 and 3 are far more attractive then option 1. just to be clear I am all for leaving with no deal I am just trying to understand why the EU thinks its makes sense not to compromise. 
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|  steeleye20  Croydon 30 Jan 19 5.00pm |    | 
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| Originally posted by Badger11 
 Apparently the EU are standing firm on refusing to negotiate around the Irish border issue. It's their right of course but I do not understand their position. If we leave without a deal in 2 months how are they going to deal with the major customs issue that they believe exists (I don't)? As I see it the EU has 3 choices: 1. No deal and they have to handle the fallout in 2 months. Maybe I am missing something but I would have though options 2 and 3 are far more attractive then option 1. just to be clear I am all for leaving with no deal I am just trying to understand why the EU thinks its makes sense not to compromise. 'Maybe I am missing something' B you certainly are, whether the UK could deliver on any revised withdrawal agreement, but also who are they dealing with, is it Mrs May the PM of the UK or of the conservative party ????????? 
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|  Stirlingsays  30 Jan 19 5.01pm |      | 
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| The EU won't blink until they have to. They will rely on their remainers with 'project fear' to save them any concessions. It's only when and if that's exhausted that they will blink. Because at the end.....It's all about that 39 billion.....That's why it was the very first thing they wanted secured. Before they would even talk about the rights of their citizens in the UK. Personally I would treat them exactly how they have treated us. 
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