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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 25 Oct 19 9.43am

No surprise there.

Anyway to brexit and it can hardly be worse:-

Cardiff University survey:-

Most Leave voters across all three countries think violence towards MPs is a ‘price worth paying’ for Brexit - 71% in England, 60% in Scotland and 70% in Wales.

Shows what sort of a place we are in.

 

Midlands Eagle Flag 25 Oct 19 10.31am

Originally posted by steeleye20


Cardiff University survey:-

Most Leave voters across all three countries think violence towards MPs is a ‘price worth paying’ for Brexit - 71% in England, 60% in Scotland and 70% in Wales.

Shows what sort of a place we are in.

I find that unbelievable. Do you have a link to the article

 

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 25 Oct 19 10.39am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I find that unbelievable. Do you have a link to the article

[Link]

Was at the Guardian earlier this morning.


 

Midlands Eagle Flag 25 Oct 19 10.54am

Quote Key findings from the 2019 Future of England Survey, conducted by YouGov, show:

•Most Leave voters across all three countries think violence towards MPs is a ‘price worth paying’ for Brexit - 71% in England, 60% in Scotland and 70% in Wales. The majority of Remain voters across all three countries think violence towards MPs is a ‘price worth paying’ to Remain - 58% in England, 53% in Scotland and 56% in Wales.

•A majority of Remain voters across all three countries think protests in which members of the public are badly injured are a ‘price worth paying’ to stop Brexit and remain in the EU - 57% in England, 56% in Scotland and 57% in Wales. Even larger majorities of Leave voters in all three countries think protests in which members of the public are badly injured are a ‘price worth paying’ to achieve Brexit - 69% in England, 62% in Scotland and 70% in Wales.

I see that you omitted to mention that a majority of Remain voters also thought the same way.

Where did they carry out their surveys? Detention centres and prisons perhaps

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 25 Oct 19 10.57am

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Because some of the biggest boneheads in the HoC are there because of who they are rather than what they represent.

With the biggest of them all being the current PM?

 


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chris123 Flag hove actually 25 Oct 19 10.59am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Quote Key findings from the 2019 Future of England Survey, conducted by YouGov, show:

•Most Leave voters across all three countries think violence towards MPs is a ‘price worth paying’ for Brexit - 71% in England, 60% in Scotland and 70% in Wales. The majority of Remain voters across all three countries think violence towards MPs is a ‘price worth paying’ to Remain - 58% in England, 53% in Scotland and 56% in Wales.

•A majority of Remain voters across all three countries think protests in which members of the public are badly injured are a ‘price worth paying’ to stop Brexit and remain in the EU - 57% in England, 56% in Scotland and 57% in Wales. Even larger majorities of Leave voters in all three countries think protests in which members of the public are badly injured are a ‘price worth paying’ to achieve Brexit - 69% in England, 62% in Scotland and 70% in Wales.

I see that you omitted to mention that a majority of Remain voters also thought the same way.

Where did they carry out their surveys? Detention centres and prisons perhaps

Is that the same survey as the one about a month ago that said people would prefer the union break up than stop Brexit over a range of demographics?

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 25 Oct 19 11.00am

Originally posted by DanH

It is invisible when you delete posts.

Whilst leaving the piffle being responded to in place for all to see.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 25 Oct 19 11.00am

Originally posted by jeeagles

Do you really think a second vote will win for remain? Go back to the first two posts on this thread. There have not been 200,000 job losses, house prices have slowed. Wages are up.

Plus Germany are in recession, the EU are in denial, the only thing keeping them together is brexit and they have done nothing since the referendum to make reform or make people want to stay.

That isn't the point. A second referendum will solve nothing anyway.

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 25 Oct 19 11.05am

Originally posted by the silurian

which question was that?

Is it so hard to check what you might have missed, either by mistake or deliberately?

The question was:-

"Please explain where on earth you see an insult in my post?"

Now you have two to answer.

 


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cpfc_chap Flag koh samui 25 Oct 19 11.11am

Sums it up for me

[Link]

 

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 25 Oct 19 11.13am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Quote Key findings from the 2019 Future of England Survey, conducted by YouGov, show:

•Most Leave voters across all three countries think violence towards MPs is a ‘price worth paying’ for Brexit - 71% in England, 60% in Scotland and 70% in Wales. The majority of Remain voters across all three countries think violence towards MPs is a ‘price worth paying’ to Remain - 58% in England, 53% in Scotland and 56% in Wales.

•A majority of Remain voters across all three countries think protests in which members of the public are badly injured are a ‘price worth paying’ to stop Brexit and remain in the EU - 57% in England, 56% in Scotland and 57% in Wales. Even larger majorities of Leave voters in all three countries think protests in which members of the public are badly injured are a ‘price worth paying’ to achieve Brexit - 69% in England, 62% in Scotland and 70% in Wales.

I see that you omitted to mention that a majority of Remain voters also thought the same way.

Where did they carry out their surveys? Detention centres and prisons perhaps

Hopefully it is very wide of the mark most people are just sick of it anyway.

 

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 25 Oct 19 11.15am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

That isn't the point. A second referendum will solve nothing anyway.

Yes it will.

Yes to Johnson or remain.

Quite clear.

It is essential that the public has the facts and they do this time.

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 25 Oct 19 11.16am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

That isn't the point. A second referendum will solve nothing anyway.

Much as I don't want any referendums I don't think that is actually true.

It won't stop people believing that to either leave or remain in the EU is best for us.

What it would solve is knowing how many people still want to leave now we have had 3 years of experience of just how complex and difficult it is to untangle a Union. Knowing that might enable a compromise solution which sees us leaving, but in a way that everyone can live with. Make it strictly advisory, a consultation only, with it clearly understood that Parliament will take the final decision about how to interpret the information.

As this Union has lasted just 40 years imagine the problems if Scotland ever did decide to separate.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 25 Oct 19 11.19am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Much as I don't want any referendums I don't think that is actually true.

It won't stop people believing that to either leave or remain in the EU is best for us.

What it would solve is knowing how many people still want to leave now we have had 3 years of experience of just how complex and difficult it is to untangle a Union. Knowing that might enable a compromise solution which sees us leaving, but in a way that everyone can live with. Make it strictly advisory, a consultation only, with it clearly understood that Parliament will take the final decision about how to interpret the information.

As this Union has lasted just 40 years imagine the problems if Scotland ever did decide to separate.

Yawn.

 

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 25 Oct 19 11.25am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Much as I don't want any referendums I don't think that is actually true.

It won't stop people believing that to either leave or remain in the EU is best for us.

What it would solve is knowing how many people still want to leave now we have had 3 years of experience of just how complex and difficult it is to untangle a Union. Knowing that might enable a compromise solution which sees us leaving, but in a way that everyone can live with. Make it strictly advisory, a consultation only, with it clearly understood that Parliament will take the final decision about how to interpret the information.

As this Union has lasted just 40 years imagine the problems if Scotland ever did decide to separate.

A new referendum must be binding upon the government and parliament with legal and prompt implementation.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 25 Oct 19 11.27am

Originally posted by steeleye20

A new referendum must be binding upon the government and parliament with legal and prompt implementation.

Article 50 is binding is it not?

 

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 25 Oct 19 11.33am

Far simpler to revoke article 50 and end the whole sorry episode.

As we can see today we will be forever at the EUs beck and call if we leave.

An endless trade negotiation dictated to us by the EU.

Continued rule from Brussels under EU law.

Cancelling costs nothing and preserves our highly undeserved status.

The UK had simply taken leave of its senses.

 

Midlands Eagle Flag 25 Oct 19 11.36am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

With the biggest of them all being the current PM?

With a bit of luck we'll all find out on 12th December

 

Teddy Eagle Flag 25 Oct 19 11.40am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

With the biggest of them all being the current PM?

Possibly but I bet he can count.

 

the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 25 Oct 19 12.46pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Is it so hard to check what you might have missed, either by mistake or deliberately?

The question was:-

"Please explain where on earth you see an insult in my post?"

Now you have two to answer.

stop talikng down to me and I may respond

 

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