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Pussay Patrol Flag 14 Feb 19 1.17pm

Originally posted by chris123

Even more laughter - Germany one decimal point from being in a recession. When Germany sneezes the rest of the EU zone better stock up on some Vit C.

I think the general point being made is we are only a few weeks away from the Brexit deadline with only chaos and uncertainty awaiting, and yet people sneer at Europe as if they are the fools.

Brexiters are now in full comical Ali mode. Complete denial and their only angle is more anti eu slander, pathetic

Where does Britain stand after March 29th? You haven't got a Scooby

Edited by Pussay Patrol (14 Feb 2019 1.18pm)

 


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Originally posted by steeleye20

Laughter in the EU parliament as Farage and co are trapped into admitting that they have not even read Mrs Mays withdrawal agreement.

As leavers know but will never say, it is all pain for the UK with no gain whatsoever.

But why read it anyway I mean it is only your countries future, and it prevents your being ruled by the european super state, doesn't it?

Actually no, the opposite, but don't let it interrupt your day.....

All waffle.....Will Steely be leaving these shores?

Nope, but I'm pretty sure you'll continue to slag off the hand that feeds you and advocate for one that's trying to damage it.

Even if things go really badly over Brexit it's wrong to say there is no gain whats so ever Steely.

We get the pleasure in annoying people like yourself.

2016 will always stand......It's a last stand or the start of a new dawn.......But regardless it can never be taken from my memory. It's a victory I'll enjoy for the rest of my natural.

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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

I think the general point being made is we are only a few weeks away from the Brexit deadline with only chaos and uncertainty awaiting, and yet people sneer at Europe as if they are the fools.

Brexiters are now in full comical Ali mode. Complete denial and their only angle is more anti eu slander, pathetic

Where does Britain stand after March 29th? You haven't got a Scooby

Edited by Pussay Patrol (14 Feb 2019 1.18pm)


“Who will be left weakened by Brexit is the United Kingdom,” he said. “It is already weakening, it is a waning country compared to two or three years ago. It is going to become an economy of middling size in the Atlantic Ocean. It is neither the US nor the EU. It is too small to appear on the world stage on its own.”


Mark Rutte:-Dutch PM

A very perplexed Dutch PM, welcoming the influx of jobs and business from the UK and really not understandng why we are so barmy.


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 14 Feb 19 1.48pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

“Who will be left weakened by Brexit is the United Kingdom,” he said. “It is already weakening, it is a waning country compared to two or three years ago. It is going to become an economy of middling size in the Atlantic Ocean. It is neither the US nor the EU. It is too small to appear on the world stage on its own.”

Have a read of this article entitled "What effect has Brexit had on the UK economy?"

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What is clear, however, is that two-and-a-half years after the referendum, the most dire predictions about what could have happened to financial wellbeing have failed to transpire.

Rewind to May 2016. The then chancellor, George Osborne, warned of what he said would happen over the immediate period of two years following a vote to leave the EU.

He said: "A vote to leave would represent an immediate and profound shock to our economy. That shock would push our economy into a recession and lead to an increase in unemployment of around 500,000,

"GDP would be 3.6% smaller, average real wages would be lower, inflation higher, sterling weaker, house prices would be hit and public borrowing would rise compared with a vote to remain."

He was assuming Article 50, the process by which the UK leaves, would be triggered immediately after the vote; in the event, it was nine months later. But the warning stands.

Project Fear? Well, the economy hasn't contracted, and the level of unemployment is actually the lowest on record. But that's not to say that the economy's path hasn't deviated from what had earlier been expected.

Of course, there are other issues that will have influenced our economy's path - but the anticipation of the UK leaving the EU is far from insignificant.


 

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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

I think the general point being made is we are only a few weeks away from the Brexit deadline with only chaos and uncertainty awaiting, and yet people sneer at Europe as if they are the fools.

Brexiters are now in full comical Ali mode. Complete denial and their only angle is more anti eu slander, pathetic

Where does Britain stand after March 29th? You haven't got a Scooby

Edited by Pussay Patrol (14 Feb 2019 1.18pm)

It's a shame you can't see the post I was responding to, which was steely and his european super state comment.

 

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Pussay Patrol Flag 14 Feb 19 2.50pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Have a read of this article entitled "What effect has Brexit had on the UK economy?"

[Link]

What is clear, however, is that two-and-a-half years after the referendum, the most dire predictions about what could have happened to financial wellbeing have failed to transpire.

Rewind to May 2016. The then chancellor, George Osborne, warned of what he said would happen over the immediate period of two years following a vote to leave the EU.

He said: "A vote to leave would represent an immediate and profound shock to our economy. That shock would push our economy into a recession and lead to an increase in unemployment of around 500,000,

"GDP would be 3.6% smaller, average real wages would be lower, inflation higher, sterling weaker, house prices would be hit and public borrowing would rise compared with a vote to remain."

He was assuming Article 50, the process by which the UK leaves, would be triggered immediately after the vote; in the event, it was nine months later. But the warning stands.

Project Fear? Well, the economy hasn't contracted, and the level of unemployment is actually the lowest on record. But that's not to say that the economy's path hasn't deviated from what had earlier been expected.

Of course, there are other issues that will have influenced our economy's path - but the anticipation of the UK leaving the EU is far from insignificant.


If you take job lost as a direct result of Brexit rather than unemployment overall then he's not too far off his prediction, the articles were posted on this thread. House prices have been pretty stagnant, the currency has been weak for the entire 2.5 years and our deficit is still as high as its ever been. Do you know if GDP is what it would be today if we hadn't voted leave? That 3.6% disadvantage could be about right

So not exactly sure the point you're making? I think George isn't too far off

 


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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

If you take job lost as a direct result of Brexit rather than unemployment overall then he's not too far off his prediction, the articles were posted on this thread. House prices have been pretty stagnant, the currency has been weak for the entire 2.5 years and our deficit is still as high as its ever been. Do you know if GDP is what it would be today if we hadn't voted leave? That 3.6% disadvantage could be about right

So not exactly sure the point you're making? I think George isn't too far off

'project fear' is actually happening, but it is not immediate, rather a protracted decline over several years.

Nobody stands up well from 2016 it was appalling.


 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 14 Feb 19 3.06pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

If nothing else, Brexit has exposed politicians as even more appalling then even skeptics imagined.

The Tories have been trying very hard to self destruct but to see Labour politicians on one side desperate for another election and eager to ignore democracy and get a second referendum at any cost is truly sickening.
Then you have the other side who cannot publically admit that they are as keen to leave the EU as the most ardent Tory Euroskeptic.
Labour has been exposed as the fake that it always was.

When did people ever get richer by voting Labour?

Unless they were on the welfare of course. And let's not forget all those minority voters who they must suck up to while ignoring their aging traditional supporters.

I hope they never see government again in my lifetime.

 

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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

If nothing else, Brexit has exposed politicians as even more appalling then even skeptics imagined.

The Tories have been trying very hard to self destruct but to see Labour politicians on one side desperate for another election and eager to ignore democracy and get a second referendum at any cost is truly sickening.
Then you have the other side who cannot publically admit that they are as keen to leave the EU as the most ardent Tory Euroskeptic.
Labour has been exposed as the fake that it always was.

When did people ever get richer by voting Labour?

Unless they were on the welfare of course. And let's not forget all those minority voters who they must suck up to while ignoring their aging traditional supporters.

I hope they never see government again in my lifetime.

Yep, Labour hasn't stood for the British working class for quite a few decades now.

It's become an 'Islington' champagne socialist collection point for the low testosterone wannabe middle class and actual middle class chatteriati 'males' who felt Daddy was too harsh on them.....and of course females who Daddy over spoilt.

Just me having fun with lefty stereotypes.

 


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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

If you take job lost as a direct result of Brexit rather than unemployment overall then he's not too far off his prediction, the articles were posted on this thread. House prices have been pretty stagnant, the currency has been weak for the entire 2.5 years and our deficit is still as high as its ever been.

Jobs lost as a result of Brexit or those job losses conveniently blamed on Brexit?

You claim that house prices have been stagnant as if that's a bad thing and sterling may be weaker but that helps exporters as it makes our prices more competitive

 

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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Jobs lost as a result of Brexit or those job losses conveniently blamed on Brexit?

You claim that house prices have been stagnant as if that's a bad thing and sterling may be weaker but that helps exporters as it makes our prices more competitive

One thing I do think is that the end of austerity will be binned, if it hasn't been already.


 

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W12 14 Feb 19 9.19pm

Even the bloody guardian thinks project fear is nonsense and the EU is rubbish:

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Listen to this:

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