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the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 25 Oct 19 12.50pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Are you avoiding my question?

where are the insults aimed at you?>

 

Ghostship Flag Norfolk 25 Oct 19 1.13pm

In regards to a 2nd referendum what is it we supposedly know more about now than we did 3 years ago? The Northern Ireland issue maybe but there is nothing else that is so alarming to warrant a 2nd vote. All we have had in the last 3 years is a constant load of project fear propaganda from remoaners.

Yes things might be tough for a bit after leaving but that's life in general, when is life ever a stroll in the park. For the vast majority of us life will hardly change it will just be nice for the UK to have more control over how our country is run and not see millions upon millions going to the EU to waste on vanity projects in other countries which never get completed.

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 25 Oct 19 1.24pm

Originally posted by the silurian

where are the insults aimed at you?>

Scattered throughout these pages so you ought to be able to find some.

I am busy so cannot spend time looking for examples.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 25 Oct 19 1.25pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Article 50 is binding is it not?

Triggering Article 50 was a decision made by Parliament.

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 25 Oct 19 1.43pm

Nothing for a few days while cowardly Corbyn strokes the dried food in his facial hair. Protest politics until he’s gone.

 


COYP

Invalid user 2019 Flag 25 Oct 19 2.52pm

So Labour now plan to block a December election, and getting the deal through looks like a tough ask too. A few months more of drifting along aimlessly then.

 

Invalid user 2019 Flag 25 Oct 19 3.20pm

Latest favourability figures (23-24 Oct) Boris Johnson Favourable 38% Unfavourable 54% NET -16 Jeremy Corbyn Favourable 20% Unfavourable 70% NET -50 - YOUGOV

 

the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 25 Oct 19 3.43pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Scattered throughout these pages so you ought to be able to find some.

I am busy so cannot spend time looking for examples.

likewise pal!

 

cryrst Flag The garden of England 25 Oct 19 3.49pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Much as I don't want any referendums I don't think that is actually true.

It won't stop people believing that to either leave or remain in the EU is best for us.

What it would solve is knowing how many people still want to leave now we have had 3 years of experience of just how complex and difficult it is to untangle a Union. Knowing that might enable a compromise solution which sees us leaving, but in a way that everyone can live with. Make it strictly advisory, a consultation only, with it clearly understood that Parliament will take the final decision about how to interpret the information.

As this Union has lasted just 40 years imagine the problems if Scotland ever did decide to separate.

So because untangling it is difficult; it should be stopped.
It took years to enter and set up trade deals 40 years ago and to date deals were and are still being altered.
The unknown seems to frighten some people it appears.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 25 Oct 19 5.15pm

Originally posted by cryrst

So because untangling it is difficult; it should be stopped.
It took years to enter and set up trade deals 40 years ago and to date deals were and are still being altered.
The unknown seems to frighten some people it appears.

There is not an argument too stupid for Wisbech to stoop to for the benefit of his little agenda.

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 25 Oct 19 5.40pm

Originally posted by the silurian

likewise pal!

Didn't have to wait long did we?

Try this, posted just a while ago:-

"There is not an argument too stupid for Wisbech to stoop to for the benefit of his little agenda."

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 25 Oct 19 5.48pm

Originally posted by cryrst

So because untangling it is difficult; it should be stopped.
It took years to enter and set up trade deals 40 years ago and to date deals were and are still being altered.
The unknown seems to frighten some people it appears.

I didn't say that did I? You just assume that's what I meant. It's nothing to do with any "fear of the unknown". It's more the reality of the known.

The point is that as everyone can now see how difficult it is that some may now feel it just isn't worth it. Not you no doubt, nor those who voted to remain and haven't changed their minds, but possibly enough to make a difference. When a decision was on such a knife edge already it doesn't take a lot to swing the balance the other way.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 25 Oct 19 5.53pm

Originally posted by dollardays

So Labour now plan to block a December election, and getting the deal through looks like a tough ask too. A few months more of drifting along aimlessly then.

For "block a December election" read "stop a no deal Brexit".

For "drifting aimlessly along" read "playing the longer game".

From the analysis I just heard stopping a no deal Brexit is impossible unless Article 50 is revoked, which Johnson won't do, so what Corbyn is asking for cannot be delivered. His word won't be enough. He isn't trusted.

 


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the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 25 Oct 19 5.53pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Didn't have to wait long did we?

Try this, posted just a while ago:-

"There is not an argument too stupid for Wisbech to stoop to for the benefit of his little agenda."

well, I never said that but if the cap fits......
I was refering to insults from me about you, when there are none..

 

the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 25 Oct 19 5.58pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I didn't say that did I? You just assume that's what I meant. It's nothing to do with any "fear of the unknown". It's more the reality of the known.

The point is that as everyone can now see how difficult it is that some may now feel it just isn't worth it. Not you no doubt, nor those who voted to remain and haven't changed their minds, but possibly enough to make a difference. When a decision was on such a knife edge already it doesn't take a lot to swing the balance the other way.

How exactly do you KNOW the reality, it hasnt happened yet and is looking likely that it will not happen....from my point of view I wish it was cancelled BUT leave won the vote so to cancel it would be the end of democracy in the UK..(if its not already destroyed)....I would prefer to remain for purely selfish reasons.....no one has yet answered what would happen IF leave won another referendum....referendum 3 referendum 4?? Maybe you can tell me, you know the future!!

Edited by the silurian (25 Oct 2019 5.59pm)

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 25 Oct 19 6.24pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

For "block a December election" read "stop a no deal Brexit".

For "drifting aimlessly along" read "playing the longer game".

From the analysis I just heard stopping a no deal Brexit is impossible unless Article 50 is revoked, which Johnson won't do, so what Corbyn is asking for cannot be delivered. His word won't be enough. He isn't trusted.

Read, try and stop Brexit completely.

Your're not fooling anyone.

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Oct 19 6.27pm

Looking forward to meeting up tonight with a host of my Tory Brexiteer chums, real "Spartans", over several 'Tinctures' before,during and in all likelihood after some culinary delights! Sobriety is certainly not on the agenda.No prizes for guessing the topic of conversation!

Edited by Willo (25 Oct 2019 6.29pm)

 

Spiderman Flag Horsham 25 Oct 19 6.46pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Moderators should rotate it is not a job for life.

Also moderators should not post their views with the threat of banning people like pussay patrol who should be welcome to their view.

He was a complete k*** who resorted to insulting those that disagreed with him.

 

Spiderman Flag Horsham 25 Oct 19 6.48pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

No surprise there.

Anyway to brexit and it can hardly be worse:-

Cardiff University survey:-

Most Leave voters across all three countries think violence towards MPs is a ‘price worth paying’ for Brexit - 71% in England, 60% in Scotland and 70% in Wales.

Shows what sort of a place we are in.

Talk to us about the threats of violence by the far-left aimed at MPs who have spoken out about anti-semitism in the Labour Party

 

Spiderman Flag Horsham 25 Oct 19 6.52pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Far simpler to revoke article 50 and end the whole sorry episode.

As we can see today we will be forever at the EUs beck and call if we leave.

An endless trade negotiation dictated to us by the EU.

Continued rule from Brussels under EU law.

Cancelling costs nothing and preserves our highly undeserved status.

The UK had simply taken leave of its senses.

Haven't we been for the last 40 years?

 

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